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  1. My XviD backups have 23,976 fs.

    If I make PAL-DVDs from them, the playback will be slightly jerky because of the extra frames TMPGEnc adds in order to get 25 fs.

    A very simple solution is to make NTSC DVDs out of them. As many of my XviD films have a vertical resolution in the range 250-350 pixels, the difference between 480 and 576 in the DVD resolutions will hardly show.

    My Kiss DP-450 DVD-player and my 3-years old Philips TV shows NTSC DVDs perfectly. But what about other cominations?

    Do PAL-players convert an NTSC DVD to PAL or do TV-sets manage the NTSC standard?

    BTW, you may wonder why I convert XviD to DVD when I have a Kiss-player. Well, it is because it sucks!

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  2. DVD players in PAL regions, when presented with an NTSC format DVD will do one of 3 things.

    1) Output NTSC
    2) Ouput PAL-60 (Pal signals but at 60 fields per second)
    3) nothing. (Very Rare/unlikley)

    In the case of 1 and 2, it then depends on the capabilities of the TV. Most PAL TV's will handle PAL-60 via SCART (composite, S-Video or RGB) and many will also handle NTSC.

    No Guarantees with any particular combo though.
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  3. I think you can simply speed up 23.976 fps to 25 fps without need for extra frames.
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  4. Originally Posted by Abond
    I think you can simply speed up 23.976 fps to 25 fps without need for extra frames.
    Correct, but then you also need to adjust the length of the audio to match the new playing time.
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  5. Originally Posted by bugster
    Originally Posted by Abond
    I think you can simply speed up 23.976 fps to 25 fps without need for extra frames.
    Correct, but then you also need to adjust the length of the audio to match the new playing time.
    And the subtitle...
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  6. In my post I especially didn't wrote "video".
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  7. Originally Posted by Abond
    In my post I especially didn't wrote "video".
    Quite true, but you did use the word 'frames' and audio does not have frames.

    Anyway, enough of the pedantry, I think we both know that 23.976fps video (with matching audio) can be sped up to 25fps with little or no ill effects. But that wasn't the question originally asked.
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  8. Its very rare i do NTSC to PAL conversions, even if i live in PAL country. I do some PAL to NTSC however, as i been living in Philippines parts of the year, many of my friends there doesnt have TVs with PAL support, and my Camcorder is PAL (For VCD i dont care much, they all have VCD players with PAL/NTSC multiconvert). In Europe most TVs (except a few japanese) made the last 15-20 years had NTSC support. The players are very unlikely to have problems. Its really much worse in NTSC countries, in PAL countries we shouldnt mind converting. Some of my friends got almost their entire DVD collection in Region 1 NTSC, never experienced problems with any player or tv except for the region code ofcourse
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  9. Originally Posted by bugster
    DVD players in PAL regions, when presented with an NTSC format DVD will do one of 3 things.

    1) Output NTSC
    2) Ouput PAL-60 (Pal signals but at 60 fields per second)
    3) nothing. (Very Rare/unlikley)
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    Can add to that..

    4) Play in black and white...
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