Missing VOB file/Question

[alegator]

I have 6 DVD's in my hard drive. I burned discs 1,2,3,4 and 6 with no problem to a DVD-R using Nero Burning Rom. But when I try to burn disc#5 with Nero Burning Rom DVD-Video the following warning message shows up:
"DVD-Video files reallocation failed: Required file 'VTS_03_0.VOB' is not present"
And also the following warning pops-up:
"DVD-Video files reallocation failed. The resulting DVD-Video might be unplayable. Do you want to continue?"
Yet when I play this disc from the hard drive using Cyberlink PowerDVD player in my PC it plays with no problem.
My question is: if I go ahead and burn it to DVD-R using Nero Burning ROM and disregard the warning, will the resulting DVD-R be playable or will I waste it? In case it won't be playable, can I fix the problem by copying the 'VTS_03_0.VOB' file from disc 6 or from any of the other ones and pasting it in Disc 5 or this will cause a conflict??
Thanks for your reply.

[flaninacupboard]

it may not be a problem, if notihng on the disc references the file it won't matter, and the fact pDVD plays it is promising. i would rip the disc again to be on the safe side, but for the cost of a dvd-r and a few minutes, burn it and see.

[alegator]

Maybe I can test the burning in a DVD+RW, that way I won't waste a DVD-R.

[flaninacupboard]

even better

[Faithful Follower]

Alegator,
Use IFOEdit and Get Sector. It should work.

[alegator]

What is IFOEdit? An alternative to Nero Burning ROm? Will it make any difference? I've been using Nero and it works perfectly, only that this time it's reporting a missing VOB file as explained in this thread.

[flaninacupboard]

ifoedit is a very simple authoring program/vob restructuring applicaiton. basically you'd be changing the DVD structure so it wouldn't "notice" the file was missing.

[Faithful Follower]

Alegator,
You said the VTS_03_0.vob is missing, is there a VTS_03_0.BUP file there?
If so, just make a copy of that and re-name it to VTS_03_0.vob.
If not then use IFOEdit.

[alegator]

Follower,
Yes, there is a VTS_03_0.BUP file there (14Kb). In the other discs both of these files are present. Is this a redundancy? (sort of like a backup?).
I will try your solution.
Regarding IFOEdit, seems to be a cool program, but I would prefer to try this first.
Thanks.

[untouchableflowz]

I would suggest that you just re-save the VTS_03_0.VOB, as it is most likely the motion thumbnail clip(s) for the video VTS_03_01.VOB... Without that file, your menus won't show the motion, and since it has a motion menu without the motion file, there will be no thumbnail at all on the dvd menu, which may cause a conflict on a standalone dvd player...

[alegator]

As you can see in the DVD file list, the missing file really has very little information, I wonder what it is. Most of the info is stored in the VTS_01 files.

[untouchableflowz]

Yes, but you said a .vob file is missing, and that has to be from a motion menu or something, as the vob files contain video...

[alegator]

So will the solution suggested by Follower work? ("If so, just make a copy of that and re-name it to VTS_03_0.vob".)

[untouchableflowz]

It will work, but if you still have the dvd that you ripped it from, you should just re-copy that 1 file to that video_ts folder....

[Gurm]

Burn using CopyToDVD or some other program.

Nero sucks donkey kong for burning DVD Video. Always has.

- Gurm

[Faithful Follower]

Alegator,
I just want to do a follow up , I realized my method of copying the .BUP file might not work...
If you don't have the original any more, the best way around it maybe the only way, which you have to re-author the movie without any menus.

Download IFOEdit and if you need help on how to go about, post again and I'll help you step by step.

[alegator]

Follower,
Thanks for your feedback. I will try burning to a DVD+RW using Nero as I don't have the original DVD. If the DVD+RW is playable in my home DVD player I will go ahead and burn it to a DVD-R, that way I won't waste it. I have some hope that it will be playable since as mentioned before the DVD files are recognized by PowerDVD in my PC and played fine. We'll see....I'll let you know on the results. Thanks again.

[alegator]

Gurm,
Why do you claim that? I have used Nero to burn DVD Video flawlessly...

[Faithful Follower]

Alegator,
By being able to play the individual vob files with PowerDVD doesn't mean the standalone will be able to play it. Standalone will need the correct DVD file structure to recognise the DVD.
Did you play the files by ' Open DVD file on hard disk drive ' ?( VIDEO_TS.IFO )
Or did you just click anyone vob file and play?

If indeed you can play the DVD folder with PowerDVD, then there's no reason it can't be burn...

[XL3/\/7]

First of all, the .bup file is a backup of the .ifo file and not the .vob file. If each DVD had a backup file for each .vob, half of the diskspace would be consumed on backups.
When I first began reauthoring DVDs, I was making the mistake of updating the Video_TS.ifo with ifo update, along with the other ifos and all the DVDs were playing on PowerDVD. One of them was even playing correctly on a friend's standalone but that was obviously accidental, since it wouldn't play on other standalones. Bottom line, a DVD may play on a PC DVD but not necessarily on a standalone.
I have been using Nero for a couple of years now and it has never disappointed me. IMO it's the best burning SW outhere but everyone is entitled to his own opinion, right?
You mention DVDs 1 to 6 but never mention what they are. Are they movie backups, are they personal videos that you authored to DVD format? What are they? If you haven't messed with the vob streams and the DVDs are just copies of original DVD-5s, go ahead ignoring Nero and burn the DVD if not, don't.

[alegator]

Follower,
To be more specific, when I use PowerDVD to play the DVD files in my hard drive I choose the "Select source" button on the player and then choose the option "Open DVD file on hard disk drive", after that I just choose the folder where the DVD files corresponding to disc 5 reside and the DVD is played with menus, subtutles, etc...all features working fine. That's why I have hope the burned DVD-R will be playable in my home standalone DVD player.
XL3,
DVDs 1 to 6 are copies of original DVD-5s, it's just that only with disc#5 Nero was reporting a missing VOB file as mentioned in this post. I agree with you that NERO is a great DVD/CD burner, I can't claim it's the BEST only because I haven't tested other SW. I only used Roxio for CD burning, or for dragging and dropping onto CDRW or DVDRW.
I have the feeling that NERO is better for DVDR and CDR whereas Roxio suits best for Music CD's and drag and drop files onto CDRW and DVDRW.
In anycase going back to the original post, I will test the burning as I said to a DVD+RW. I will let you all know on the results.
Thanks again for your feedback.

[alegator]

Well, I finally tested burning to a DVD+RW, and the DVD was playable BOTH in the PC and in my standalone home DVD player. The only thing I noticed in the standalone player is that when I wanted to go to the main menu after setting audio+language preferences it would blink in an endless loop, yet, the menu would respond to the arrow function and be able to enter whatever button was selected. So playability and functionality were both ok.
I therefore burned it to a DVD-R.