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  1. A cinema trailer that compares the illegal download of films with other serious thefts has been launched in Australia, it is reported.
    The anti-piracy film likens such downloads to stealing cars, said film industry website Screen Daily.com.

    It said 1,900 copies of the trailer had been distributed, and the format would be adapted for use globally.

    An Australian court sentenced a person to jail for the offence last week after a recent surge in piracy.

    The trailer was produced in the US by the Motion Picture Association of America, and adapted for an Australian audience - as it will be for nations throughout the world.

    Apathy warning

    Neil Pentecost, president of the Cinema Owners Association of Australia, outlined what he felt were the main threats faced by cinema bosses.

    As well as piracy, he pointed to the shortening of the time between cinema and DVD release, speed of DVD penetration, and pay-TV platforms offering near-video-on-demand services.

    Warning against apathy, he said: "I firmly believe intellectual property theft has the potential to decimate the business if it gets out of hand."

    Adrianne Pecotic, executive director of Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft (Afact), said there had been an increase in people using camcorders in cinemas to record films.

    But she said most pirated products still came from Asia.

    From January to March this year, 25,600 illegal copies were seized by Australian customs officers compared to 4,796 in the same period last year.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/3789619.stm


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  2. Has anyone got a pirate copy we can download?
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  3. Originally Posted by energy80s
    Has anyone got a pirate copy we can download?
    It would be good to get a crappy cam job of one of these, or maybe a Screener rip that goes black and white occasionally


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  4. It amazes me to see that they invest so much time, money and effort into stopping people from pirating films when DVDs cost as much as £25 and come out at different times over the world.

    Region coding is a blatent example of how they would just love to keep prices fixed.

    They need to stop whining, drop prices and globalise release dates (although this has started, thankfully). The they may see a drop in piracy. Same goes for the music industry.

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    The irony is that global release dates, such as for the Matrix sequels, have only come about because of piracy. Rather than try to head it off at the pass, they have closed the gate long after the horse had bolted (to mix many metaphors into a cliche soup)
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  6. Originally Posted by VCDHunter
    Originally Posted by energy80s
    Has anyone got a pirate copy we can download?
    It would be good to get a crappy cam job of one of these, or maybe a Screener rip that goes black and white occasionally
    Upload it to me. I'll mail a personalized copy to Jack Valenti.
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    It amazes me, i like the trailer with the behind the scenes guys talking about piracy, saying how there gonna be out of a job trying to get the sympaty vote,
    Here's an idea, instead of paying the main actors £20 million a movie, why not pay them £18million even 17 million and give the rest to the poor movie crew who are going to be out of a job give an extra £10,000 to the guy who has to hold the cables, or the guy who stands with the crew just nodding his head pretending he knows what their talking about.
    Actors are demanding more and more money to make movies its not piracy that is putting those guys out of work,its the demanding actors wanting more and more cash so they can buy 4 more houses and 8 more cars, mmm just my little theory
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    Originally Posted by indolikaa
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    Originally Posted by energy80s
    Has anyone got a pirate copy we can download?
    It would be good to get a crappy cam job of one of these, or maybe a Screener rip that goes black and white occasionally
    Upload it to me. I'll mail a personalized copy to Jack Valenti.
    And for Mr. Valenti's copy, I would superimpose an image of a hand "flipping him off".
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    My biggest gripe is that I'M ALREADY WATCHING THE MOVIE! I BOUGHT MY TICKET, THEREFORE I'M NOT PIRATING!

    That's like McDonald's saying "Don't make hamburgers at home. We're losing our jobs!" when you get to the register and order a Big Mac.
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  10. Originally Posted by Supreme2k
    My biggest gripe is that I'M ALREADY WATCHING THE MOVIE! I BOUGHT MY TICKET, THEREFORE I'M NOT PIRATING!

    That's like McDonald's saying "Don't make hamburgers at home. We're losing our jobs!" when you get to the register and order a Big Mac.

    Are we to assume the MPAA understands the difference between piracy and backing up their fine works of art?

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    so what is the point?
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    That's like McDonald's saying "Don't make hamburgers at home. We're losing our jobs!" when you get to the register and order a Big Mac.
    Simple solution to that - make something worth eating. :P
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    Originally Posted by lostbee
    ... Actors are demanding more and more money to make movies its not piracy that is putting those guys out of work,its the demanding actors wanting more and more cash so they can buy 4 more houses and 8 more cars, mmm just my little theory
    Actors are a "draw." They add early investment money because of it ("bankability"") They reduce advertising and promotion costs because their celevrity already has an inherent promotion value. You might as well say it is idiotic for Sports Illustrated not to have fat ugly girls in their swimsuit issue whome they can pay less than supermodels. Or that you would rather see your favorite sports team with amatuers, becasue even though they would lose you could go to the game for less.

    I have seen the ads. they are lame. But personally I think the MPAA promoting an eduactional campaign is much better thant the other alternatives: More draconian laws and enforcement, more consumer limiting technical means.

    Frankly while the issue of mass piracy is alwasy going to be a law enforcement issue, the issue of small left theft of intellectual property IS one of education, even a few people here think that because the property isn't physical there can be no rights, which is childish.

    Originally Posted by Cobra
    It amazes me to see that they invest so much time, money and effort into stopping people from pirating films when DVDs cost as much as £25 and come out at different times over the world.
    Region coding is a blatent example of how they would just love to keep prices fixed.
    They need to stop whining, drop prices and globalise release dates (although this has started, thankfully). The they may see a drop in piracy.
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    Keep in mind you are advocating a system that would just about kill small and foreign film producers and distributers.

    Globalizing release dates can be done to some degree but for the most part it is severely limited by quite a number of factors. For example to globalized dvd relases one pretty mcuh has to globaly synchronize theater and broadcast releases. to do so with theater relase woud mean taking perhaps a huge increase in risk as promotion is often one of the largest expenses of a film. To do so would also destroy non hollywood films ability to compete. do you really think a french film company can afford to distribute and promote all of its films worldwide simultaniously? How about an indie producer who relies on marketing their film regionally in order to build a buzz for the film absent a seven or eight figure promotion budget?

    yes this can be done with the certain films, the huge 1% or less that are Hollywood blockbusters, but for most films this would lower their chance of getting out there over the long term.
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  14. I've seen the ad. Stupid is an understatement. The other current
    offering made in Australia had to be abandoned due to "negative" reactions amongst members of the public - namely laughter.

    It featured a satanic forger in Hell, burning copies of movies while
    fire rages around. The voice over warns of dealing with
    organized crime, and the suffering of movie distributors is
    highlighted. At the end there is a closeup of the forger/pirate
    as he laughs in a deep satanic voice. You can see he has
    red cats eyes.

    Strong stuff
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