Pirates of the Carribean -- backing up

[Trollheart]

Any help guys? Tried with DVDDecrypter and DVD Shrink, although the latter backed it up the result is choppy, stalls and is generally useless.
Only starting out, so any help appreciated and please be gentle!
Thx
Troll

[LabanB]

I just used DVD Shrink (2.5). Came out fine. What else are you doing? Any problems with other discs?

Bill

[ricky1756]

the problem is probably with your media, and not with dvd shrink

[Trollheart]

Thanx for the reply guys.
As I said, pretty much a newbie at this...
Ripped the disc with DVD Shrink and then burned with Nero 5 onto DVD-R disc. Played this in my Panasonic DVD recorder, and weirdly enough, the trialer for "Bruce Almighty" played fine, but once it got into the movie: broke up completely.
I'm sure I am probably doing something wrong, and will keep working on it (using a DVD-RW this time: won't make THAT mistake again!) I'm also going to try other packages (though DVDDecrypter in File mode couldn't even decrypt the disc...)
Anyway thanks guys, and any advice/help very much appreciated.
Perhaps I should use ISO mode in DVD Shrink?
Thx again
Troll

[wulf109]

I find DVD Shrink un-reliable for "ripping". Try ripping with DVD Decrypter and use DVD Shrink to compress the files. Are you using Nero's DVD VIDEO template? Turn off Joliet and uncheck relax restrictions,use ISO level 1. If your using the UDF/ISO template,same plus be sure to select UDF 1.02

[SpaceCop]

Trollheart,
I used the same software with the same settings in this tutorial, which specifically uses Pirates of the Carribean as an example:
http://www.mrbass.org/dvdshrink/
Burned on a NEC-2100A with Sonic software using Fuji media.
Turned out excellent!

Steve

[budz]

What brand of dvd media are you using? Sounds to me it's the media you're using that could be the culprit. I backed up the movie with no problems using DVD SHRINK and NERO to burn.

[Trollheart]

Hi again guys, and again thanx for the input!
Yes, I'm using cheapo media (Longten), but buying in bulk this makes sense to me, as DVD discs are stille xpensive over here (anything from EUR 0.45 to EUR 0.90 per disc). Naturally, the more branded you buy the better, but also the more you pay. It may have been a dodgy disc: I'm going to try again tonight, and will let you all know how this turns out.
BTW, any problems with backing up Return of the King? (Haven't tried it yet, just wondering...)
Thx again
Troll

[RottenFoxBreath]

rip the film with DVDDecrypter,then compress it to fit onto a dvd-(+)r with DVD2One,then fianlly burn with CopytoDVD.
use a decent media,like ritek or another,and youll have no problems at all.
i always had problems with Shrink,as in my pc just hated it for some reason,and always had choppy broken movies,but when i wen the route as above,no problems any more.
incidently what does nero toolkit say bout the dye on the discs your using.
nero discspeed i think it is.
CMC,princo,mirror brand dvd-rs,datawrite yellow(not ritek ones),datawrite red,AZO dvd-rs...there all shite.
ritek,ricoh,and tayo yuden are the best ones.
as for lord of the rings,with dvd decrypter,just rip movie only,then in DVD2ONE,just take the english 5.1 soundtrack,and english subs(if needed),and itll look just as good as the original.

[Trollheart]

Okay, tried ripping using DVD Decrypter (now using Win XP) in ISO mode. Although operation completed successfully (ripped after about an hour), when I went to find the ISO file to write to DVD using ISO/Write in DVD Decrypter, unable to find it! Did a search for the file but no luck. Tried again with the same result.
What is the simplest/most reliable way to do this? Can I decrypt then just pull the Video_TS folder into Nero and burn, or is that being too naive? What's this with Nero Recode? Should I look at that?
POTC has become my test case: I need to know if I can burn discs successfully before I start doing batches of them. SO far, it's been very frustrating. Any help very much appreciated guys.
Thx
Troll

[macleod]

the burn with nero 5x is robably the problem. Use dvddecrypter to burn the resulting image to a dvd. Please tell me/us the version of dvdshrink you are using and a little about your machine. I have a 1.2 gig emachine with the A05 dvd-r burner. Burned around 300 longten's for a client and every one of them worked just fine in their machine.

Sounds like there is something that you aren't doing in the dvdshrink set up. Try to do pirates movie only and see what happens. Also, use the dvddecrypter burning tool and NOT nero's. I have nothing against nero, but a lot of issues reported with using nero.

[Ebn]

Hmm...interesting.

I've been using DVD Decrypter to extract and then shoving the files into DVD Shrink to compress and burn onto disk (also have Nero, but Shrink burns to disk immediately right after compression).

So far, over 150+ backups and no coasters yet (using all Ritek disks; first 100 on Ritek Shiny Silvers, working on the second set of 100s right now, which are white injet printables since I picked up an R200 a short while back).

Have backed up both Pirates of the Caribbean and Return of the King without any problems. These are also full disk backups, and not just the movie. With Return of the King, movie was compressed down to 57%, but can't tell the difference between the original and the backup. Make sure you use deep scan on it though.

[pyrohydra]

the burn with nero 5x is robably the problem. Use dvddecrypter to burn the resulting image to a dvd.

Also, use the dvddecrypter burning tool and NOT nero's. I have nothing against nero, but a lot of issues reported with using nero.

I think you mean issues that have mostly nothing to do with Nero but which Nero is routinely blamed for

[RottenFoxBreath]

nero IS **** for dvds though.
its just jack of all trades,master of none.
its ok for cds,but for burning dvds,i tend to use a DVD burning programme,like copytodvd.
never had 1 problem at all,and well,thats more than can be said for nero.

[noki]

With Return of the King, movie was compressed down to 57%, but can't tell the difference between the original and the backup.

I just included the movie w/o the credits and Shrink showed compression at the 59% level (thus 41% compression). decided it was too much compression for me so used Shrink to to put it uncompressed on 2 dvdrs. hard to believe one cannot see any difference between original and full movie on 1 dvdr using Shrink (43% compression). the movie's bitrate is not even that high (around 5.5 to 6 mbps on average) on the original fullscreen version.

[ricky1756]

I have burned over 300 dvd backups wi the nero, without any problems. It's the only burning software I've found that will play in all 3 of my dvd players. The problem isn't with nero, the problem is usually with people having a whole bunch of burning software on their computer, which causes conflict. To me nero is the best thing since sliced bread.

[Flemo]

I have backed up Pirates of the Carribean with no problems. I used DVD Decrypter in iso read mode, then use something like Daemon tools to mount the iso image on a virtual drive. Then open DVD shrink and open disc, pick the virtual drive and use shrink to make a full back up. I have done this for loads of back ups with virtually no coasters. Cheap media can be a reason for a choppy disc. If you have a big enough hard drive you can keep your iso's and watch then on the pc too! I am using shrink 3.1.7.6 and Nero 6.3.0.2. make sure you have a dedicated folder set up for your iso files so they are easy to find. Good luck.

[ricky1756]

why mount to a virtual drive? if the dvd is under 4.38 gigs, just rip as iso with dvd decrypter and burn as iso with burning app of choice. if over 4.38, transcode with dvd shrink and burn

[Floydscruffy]

had some problems a while back with this movie aswell,
tried to back it up with DVD shrink like I usually do and the result came somewhat choppi or may I say there is some weird frame skipping, tried it a second time using the same software and different media, and the result was the same, frame skipping in the exact same spot. After that I realized that both backups where doing this in only one of my standalone players and in the other it looked perfectly. For some reason this left me not trusting DVD shrink although iused it several times before.
Ill try decrypting it with dvddecrypter first and the run it to Shrink and see how it goes, if this doesn work my next trial will be demuxing with vobedit and reathoring.

Maybne the verision we have has some weird protection, hope this doesnt sound stupid but you never know. heerad about dummy frames in disney movies but they are something very different i think

[Flemo]

Thanks Ricky1756 for the tip. I didn't realise you could burn an iso image directly from inside DVD shrink. So no need to use the virtual drive. I will give it ago on Underworld.