VirtualDub and OGM

[ChinaGuy]

I tried to open the moive file (OGM) and it says doesn't know what type of file it is, so I can't convert the ogm to avi. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

[teegee420]

Use Virtualdubmod. If you set the video mode for direct stream copy you won't even have to recompress to save as avi.

[ChinaGuy]

Use Virtualdubmod. If you set the video mode for direct stream copy you won't even have to recompress to save as avi.

What's the difference and will it work with OGM? I've been getting headaches over this.

[ChinaGuy]

Use Virtualdubmod. If you set the video mode for direct stream copy you won't even have to recompress to save as avi.

Thanks now that does work. Can you give me a guide link on how to use it?

[teegee420]

...will it work with OGM?

I wouldn't have suggested it otherwise.

. I've been getting headaches over this.

"Advil- advanced medicine for pain"

[teegee420]

Use Virtualdubmod. If you set the video mode for direct stream copy you won't even have to recompress to save as avi.

Thanks now that does work. Can you give me a guide link on how to use it?

Don't have a link, sorry. Try what I said in my post. If you have problems, post again.

[ChinaGuy]

Use Virtualdubmod. If you set the video mode for direct stream copy you won't even have to recompress to save as avi.

Thanks now that does work. Can you give me a guide link on how to use it?

Don't have a link, sorry. Try what I said in my post. If you have problems, post again.

Thanks, I got that. Now how do you save it as .avi file after you got the thing on VirtualDub? I want to burn it on a DVD. Also it is split up into 4 parts, how can I merge them all into one?

[teegee420]

Thanks, I got that. Now how do you save it as .avi file after you got the thing on VirtualDub?

File>Save as avi. Make sure you set the video menu for direct stream copy first. Also, know that if you want to keep multiple audio tracks and subs there are additional steps you have to make.

I want to burn it on a DVD.

You'll have to convert to DVD mpeg for that. I don't know which encoder you use or have access to. Once your mpeg is created you need to use a different program to author. Again, I don't know what software you use for that.

Also it is split up into 4 parts, how can I merge them all into one?

You are better off not joining them. That will probably introduce audio sync problems.

[ChinaGuy]

Thanks, I got that. Now how do you save it as .avi file after you got the thing on VirtualDub?

File>Save as avi. Make sure you set the video menu for direct stream copy first. Also, know that if you want to keep multiple audio tracks and subs there are additional steps you have to make.

I want to burn it on a DVD.

You'll have to convert to DVD mpeg for that. I don't know which encoder you use or have access to. Once your mpeg is created you need to use a different program to author. Again, I don't know what software you use for that.

Also it is split up into 4 parts, how can I merge them all into one?

You are better off not joining them. That will probably introduce audio sync problems.

When I change them into .avis, it doesn't have sound. What option do I use to get sound? Also I use TMPGenc DVD Author and TMPGenc Plus for buring .avis. Please answer me back as soon as you can.

[teegee420]

Open your movie with Vdubmod again and go to streams>stream list, select the audio and click "demux". That will create a .ac3 file that you can use in TMPGEnc DVD Author as your audio source. If TDA won't accept it, run it through AC3Fix. Since you don't need to re-encode the audio in TMPGEnc Plus you should create a video only elementary stream (.m2v). In the lower right corner make sure "ES (video only)" is selected.

[ChinaGuy]

Thanks for all your help. Also where is the audio source for TMPGenc DVD Author, I can't seem to find it.

[teegee420]

In "source setup" just click the "add file" button. As long as the ac3 is named like the m2v(for instance- movie.m2v and movie.ac3) it should recognize both in the next screen.

[ChinaGuy]

Thanks a bunch. I'm pretty sure I have no more questions, thanks for your help.

[ChinaGuy]

Thanks a bunch. I'm pretty sure I have no more questions, thanks for your help.

Scratch that. When I demux it only can save it as an .ogg and my DVD Author can't detect both of the files. Also when I load in the .mpeg it says that the file is 640x450 or something like that. Some other stuff too. I have lots of problems now with the TMPGenc DVD Authoring.

[ChinaGuy]

Since you don't need to re-encode the audio in TMPGEnc Plus you should create a video only elementary stream (.m2v). In the lower right corner make sure "ES (video only)" is selected.

How do I do that? 'Cause everytime I do that it makes a mpeg1 file and DVD Author doesn't accept that. I can't find the options to make a .m2v without the audio part.

[teegee420]

Since you don't need to re-encode the audio in TMPGEnc Plus you should create a video only elementary stream (.m2v). In the lower right corner make sure "ES (video only)" is selected.

How do I do that? 'Cause everytime I do that it makes a mpeg1 file and DVD Author doesn't accept that. I can't find the options to make a .m2v without the audio part.

I must be trippin' because somwhere along the line I thought you had mentioned that your OGM had ac3 audio. Obviouly not the case. What you can do in Vdubmod is go to stream list again, right click the audio and select "full processing mode", then click "save wav".

You can use the wav file as your audio in either TMPGEnc or TDA. You might as well use it in TMPGEnc Plus because you're going to have to re-encode the video anyway. I don't know how you ended up with an mpeg-1 file. Choose the DVD template in the project wizard. Make sure you see "MP2" selected and not "Linear PCM Audio" because PCM wav will take up too much space on your disc.

To avoid heavy pixelization you might want to change the resolution to 352x480 instead of 720x480. In step 3/5 in the wiard click "other settings", then click on the word "size" and select "unlock". Then you can change the resolution.

[au7usa]

"To avoid heavy pixelization you might want to change the resolution to 352x480 instead of 720x480"

This sounds like something new to me, whats the thought behind it? Is it easier to scale the video and deal with fewer bits of info.

Maybe because he has to resize?

.......or something else i never considered?

(If i knew everything i'd have no use for this forum)

[teegee420]

"To avoid heavy pixelization you might want to change the resolution to 352x480 instead of 720x480"

This sounds like something new to me, whats the thought behind it? Is it easier to scale the video and deal with fewer bits of info.

Maybe because he has to resize?

.......or something else i never considered?

(If i knew everything i'd have no use for this forum)

The majority of downloaded movies have resolutions far less than full D1(720x480). Resizing up only magnifies the movie's flaws. Unless your source is at least 640x480 it's better to downsize.

It's a personal preference of mine, really. Another good thing about using half D1(352x480) is that it requires less bitrate. You shouldn't need any more than 5000kbps. That leave's space on your disc for more video.

:edited for typo:

[au7usa]

OK, then its just a normal resizing concern.

Sorry to interrupt, you may preceed sir!

[ChinaGuy]

Since you don't need to re-encode the audio in TMPGEnc Plus you should create a video only elementary stream (.m2v). In the lower right corner make sure "ES (video only)" is selected.

How do I do that? 'Cause everytime I do that it makes a mpeg1 file and DVD Author doesn't accept that. I can't find the options to make a .m2v without the audio part.

I must be trippin' because somwhere along the line I thought you had mentioned that your OGM had ac3 audio. Obviouly not the case. What you can do in Vdubmod is go to stream list again, right click the audio and select "full processing mode", then click "save wav".

You can use the wav file as your audio in either TMPGEnc or TDA. You might as well use it in TMPGEnc Plus because you're going to have to re-encode the video anyway. I don't know how you ended up with an mpeg-1 file. Choose the DVD template in the project wizard. Make sure you see "MP2" selected and not "Linear PCM Audio" because PCM wav will take up too much space on your disc.

To avoid heavy pixelization you might want to change the resolution to 352x480 instead of 720x480. In step 3/5 in the wiard click "other settings", then click on the word "size" and select "unlock". Then you can change the resolution.

That's a bunch of crap. Then the whole isn't going to fit into the DVD. Is there any way to compress or shrink the DVD? Wait, does the MP2 take up a lot less room than the PCM, if it does then it might fit.

[teegee420]

What are you talking about? What is "a bunch of crap"? Why are you convnced it that it won't fit? Yes, mp2 takes up less space than PCM. PCM wav is uncompressed. Mp2 is not.

[ChinaGuy]

What are you talking about? What is "a bunch of crap"? Why are you convnced it that it won't fit? Yes, mp2 takes up less space than PCM. PCM wav is uncompressed. Mp2 is not.

I'm saying that this whole process is a bunch of crap. It takes a long time to finish. Will about 2 hours of video fit on the DVD-R? Also any way to shrink the size of the converted files to fit the DVD? I'm sorry for be so pestering, but I'm grumpy because I'm a idiot for not getting this.

[teegee420]

You're right, the whole process is a bunch of crap. You either tolerate it or buy the ******* DVD! Nobody said it was going to be easy. If you use half D1(352x480) and mp2 audio you should be able to fit a two hour movie just fine and still have decent quality.

[ChinaGuy]

You're right, the whole process is a bunch of crap. You either tolerate it or buy the ******* DVD! Nobody said it was going to be easy. If you use half D1(352x480) and mp2 audio you should be able to fit a two hour movie just fine and still have decent quality.

Yea, being a cheap is certainly not an easy thing. Thanks. I think I'm done for now. I'll probably post some more tomorrow so watch out. Again, sorry for the pestering.

[teegee420]

No problem, dude. I think you are spending too much time mulling things over. It's pretty easy to get overwhelmed by doing that with this "hobby" of ours. Regroup, then go ahead and get your feet wet. Worry about crossing bridges when you get to them. <motivational diatribe over>

[ChinaGuy]

A quick question before the day is over. When I add a second file to my project it always says can't find audio source. It works fine with my first file, but when I add the second file it gets that error. I know this due to I switched the order of the files back and forth. So is it just the errors of the trial version of TMPGenc DVD Author? That should end my onslaught of my questions today. Be back tomorrow.

[teegee420]

I have my video and audio files named the same way so I haven't had this problem. What is the exact error message you get?

[ChinaGuy]

I have my video and audio files named the same way so I haven't had this problem. What is the exact error message you get?

It says:
*The existence of audio differs from the present track.

The existence of audio differs from the present track.
The existence of audio has to be standardized on the track.

There is no audio on the present track.


Appreantly one of the files had no sound, but it still doesn't make sense. I'll give you more details later.

[dafreak]

if you want to add multiple tracks, to your dvd, select add another track (not the exact verbage) on the left hand side. Do not add multiple video clips to the same track.

[ChinaGuy]

You guys will be glad to know that I know sucessfully burned the ogm into DVD format. Thanks for your help.