DVDShrink or ... ?

[Braveheart1980]

I am kinda new round here and i would like your opinion about which dvd9 to dvd5 program has the best results.I curently use dvdshrink in it's latest version , with which i am very satisfied. I've heard that dvd2one , and especially version 1.2.3 , is way better than any other such application. Is this true? Which application would u recommend me for shrinking my dvd's?Or which do u use? If money (or time) wasn't a problem which one would u recommend me?

[redwudz]

Gee, for somebody new here, you sure know how to stir up controversy I use Shrink, but I wouldn't say it was the best, as I haven't really tried the others.

[jimmalenko]

Let the flaming begin


These type of questions should be because they always end in .

Quality is a subjective measure - your idea of excellent quality could well be quite different to mine. You might be watching your DVDs on a 34cm TV and I could be watching mine on a 2m X 2m screen suing a projector.

The best program is the one that gives YOU acceptable output.

[Braveheart1980]

Thanks guys for your advice and help!

PS jimmalenko u have one hell of a signature btw!Real cool man!It'll be my new slogan!

[Braveheart1980]

Anyone else wanna share thoughts?

[haznut]

I don´t quite agree with jimmalenko.
Ok, quality is subjetive, but untill a certain point, it isn´t.
DVDshrink pixelates A LOT...and that´s bad quality for me, you and the butcher. I think that was the kinda answer he was looking for.
Since recordable media is still 4.7, you won´t get the exact same quality like your original DVD. Wait for the 2s/2d recordable media.

Anywayz...DVDshrink is the best tool available today for easy backup. You could try DVDrebuilder and CCE for optimal quality, but the process is tedious.

[jtoolman2000]

I use Shrink and find no so called pixalation ( MacroBlocking ) in most cases. I try to always back up only the movie and a single audio track. I've also tried dvd2one and it is also very good. It all depends on the movie as well. There just isn't a BEST program for ALL backups. As has been mentioned, quality is also very subjective although if something looks like crap then it is crap.

[Capmaster]

Shrink. Screaming fast and it gives the option of deep or standard analysis before shrinking. No macro blocks yet on output.

[indolikaa]

DVDShrink.

[jimmalenko]

I don´t quite agree with jimmalenko.
Ok, quality is subjetive, but untill a certain point, it isn´t.
DVDshrink pixelates A LOT...and that´s bad quality for me, you and the butcher.

You must be either doing it wrong or watching on a massive screen if you are getting pixelation.

[lenti_75]

I don´t quite agree with jimmalenko.
Ok, quality is subjetive, but untill a certain point, it isn´t.
DVDshrink pixelates A LOT...and that´s bad quality for me, you and the butcher.

You must be either doing it wrong or watching on a massive screen if you are getting pixelation.

this is true.....

i use it, shrunk it down to 55%...and still was perfect....i mean, don't SEE the differenc, because there is that difference, but as long as u don't see it.....

AGREE, this is becaming a REAL war.....

[pgreed]

(I posted this in another thread, but it really belongs here).
On my 66cm widescreen TV I cannot tell the difference between DVDshrink and DVD2one.
I currently favour DVD2one 1.4, DVD43 (a freeware product similar to Anydvd) and CopytoDvd 2.4. This combination gives me just about a one click solution to backing up DVD's. The major advantage is that DVD2one is so damn fast compared to DVDshrink (using deep analysis) - although the DVD2one/CopytoDvd combo does cost some money (but not that much really).
DVDshrink with Nero or DVDdecrypter is also a great one click solution, but I really like DVD2one's speed and simple interface.
(A factor to also consider is the quality of the original DVD. I find this to be
an important issue that many people overlook. Some dvd's are not great quality, so the backup copy will always be somewhat worse)!

[AarontheRipper]

Take a look at this test.

http://dvd.box.sk/articles8.php

This is by no means a perfect test because they are stills and no one I know watches movies one frame at a time. Some people have complained about movies jumping on them/skipping frames when they use certain transcoders. However, after looking at this test, I have no doubt that there are better transcoders out there than DVD Shrink.

[vioxx]

Movies only back up will be the best for quality point of view.

Most the time with DVD-9 movies, it can fill in one DVD-5 without any compression easily.

Only time I do notice quality loss what was a Black & White movie: Seven Samurai!

Sound funy?

[haznut]

jimmalenko:

I don´t know if i´m doing anything wrong...i just did what this guide explains: http://www.dvdshrink.info/fulldisk_basic.php

PS: not watching it on a big screen or projector....just a regular 29" flat.

[GKar]

I guess I'll throw some gas on the flames. I have been a DVDShrink man for a long time. I just started trying out DVD2one and I believe (using CBR mode) that I prefer the output over that of DVDShrink IMHO. The output seems to be cleaner to my eye. This was based on backing up the same disk, both in CBR mode (no variable rate (DVD2one) or Deep Analysis (DVDShrink) assuming these are similar modes). I must use DVDecyptor for ripping (DVD2one), but the overall rip to burn times are similar on my system between the 2 progies.

DVDecryptor,DVD2one & Nero or DVDShrink and Nero

[AarontheRipper]

I agree that in most cases it won't matter which program if you're doing a movie only backup, but in those cases where the movie is 7 or 8 gb I think it does matter. If you don't believe me, take a look at that address I posted above. The same movie, compressed the same way, to the same size using different programs. You can zoom in and it's pretty obvious that not all programs are created equally.

[haznut]

Take a look at this test.

http://dvd.box.sk/articles8.php

That´s what i was talking about....check out DVDshrink quality...exactly what happened to me.
Now i know why the word "subjetive" was used a couple of lines up....
Y´all DVDshrink lovers better start using glasses :P

adiu

[Braveheart1980]

Hmmm.That's strange. I've backup up 45 movies with dvdshrink with its LATEST version and in my 32'' inch tv i can't c any pixelization. I even watched very close and still can't c any pixelization. Could this b a problem of an older version?? I think dvdshrink is the best! Even my poll (on top of page) says that!(Dvdshrink 75% - Dvd2one 14 % (!!)) That's quite a difference!

[hech54]

DVDShrink ..... All of the time....NO Pixelation seen EVER.

[jimmalenko]

I don´t know if i´m doing anything wrong...i just did what this guide explains: http://www.dvdshrink.info/fulldisk_basic.php

PS: not watching it on a big screen or projector....just a regular 29" flat.

Interesting....

I tell you what, try to acquire DVDShrink 3.0 beta 5, and use my guide here on a DVD that you have backed up and have experienced issues with. This guide assumes you have already ripped the files, so instead of choosing "Open File" CHoose "Open Disc". Don't forget to manually tick Deep Analysis !

I'd be very interested to hear the results because you should be getting excellent quality stuff. The only pixelation I have seen is in a few AFL Grand Finals, where the entire game is high motion.

[Braveheart1980]

Still can't c any pixelization even in high speed movies ( eg the fast and the furious , matrix etc)

[noki]

I just started trying out DVD2one and I believe (using CBR mode) that I prefer the output over that of DVDShrink IMHO. The output seems to be cleaner to my eye.

i agree with you there. that's because the output is SOFTER than Shrink's. inotherwords Shrink's output is more detailed than One's. one area that One's output MIGHT be better than Shrink's is backing up animations. just my opinion. certainly is faster.

[Faustus]

I use DVDShrink alot still, when I'm not its because I'm using DVD Rebuilder now, its an amazing app thats only going to get better.

[Braveheart1980]

I've heard of a program called dvd rebuilder here : https://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=565#comments

Is it better than dvd shrink?

[Shudder]

I've pretty much switched to DVD-Rebuilder for anything that requires more than 80% (20% compression) in DVDShrink. Consideribly better quality when you get that low.

Of course, there's still some things it won't do like multi-angle/interleaved video so Shrink still is needed for those.

[northcat_8]

I use DVDshrink for movies under 6 GB. I also get some pixelation around objects. Usually only noticable in black areas or around objects.

Anything over 6 GB, I use IC7.

to answer your question though, the best program is the one that works best for you. I like shrink, it's by far the easiest. IC7 is so slow and I hate pinnacle but the program does what I need it to do. I am interested in the Intervideo prog...but I'm in no big hurry, I don't back up many DVDs anymore...it was fun in the beginning but now...well, it's the difference of drinking underage and after you turn 21.

[Nilfennasion]

Dual-layer burners will be available in a month or so. Are they available in the USA as yet? Once they're in widespread use, this question will become moot. For films that remain at 5+ GB once you've removed all the dubs and unnecessary subtitles, just burn DL and be done with it.

[VCDHunter]

I like shrink, it's by far the easiest.

It's so easy its ridiculous - I stared in amazement at how easy it was to use when I first tried it. If you can't backup your DVD collection with this you probably don't have anything worth backing up.

If was involved with commercial DVD production this stuff would scare the shit out of me.

[northcat_8]

I think it is funny how you can see the evolution of protections. Older DVDs are DVD5 because "backing up" technology was not here yet. Then as people started doing straight backups of DVD5, the makers decided to jam pack the DVD with more stuff making the size too large to fit on a DVD-R disc, now that encoders are rampid and DVDshrink making such EASY work of their best laid plans...I wonder what is next? Blue Laser? Won't that still have to playing a regular DVD player? Dual Layer burners are coming out...then what? 19.6 GB DVD discs? It's like trying to catch a fart with your hands, they will never have a firm grasp on it....