Slow DVD Ripping Speeds

[pelsamra]

I currently have a LG GSA-4040B DVD Burner. I just recently purchased a liteOn 16x DVD-ROM thinking it would increase my ripping speed. For some reason, the drive is only ripping at 1.666 KB/s. I’ve set my IDE drives to DNA mode and have updated both drives firmware. I use DVD decrypter to first back up the DVD to my hard drive and then use DVD Shrink to compress it (this takes the bulk of the time approx 1 hr), and then burn with CopytoDVD. Ripping/compressing takes an hour and a half and the burning process takes 20 minutes. Is this normal, am I doing something wrong? I’ve read other threads mentioning that it only takes 30-45 for the whole process. Also I'm using Ritek GO4.

Any help would be appreciated
Thank you.

[Kolosus]

Unfortunately, not all Liteon's are created equal. Some of the older 16x's are slower at ripping DVD. The newer ones, like the JLMS made "XJ-HD-166S", are much faster.

Regards.

[pelsamra]

I failed to mention that I have the JLMS made XJ-HD-166S purchased a week ago. How fast should I be ripping this with DVD decrypter? I do it in 17 minutes, normal? Also what are some other factors that help with ripping speed, i.e., CPU speed, memory etc?

[Kolosus]

Depending on the condition and the size of the dvd, I have seen from 6-7 minutes on up to 23 or so minutes. So 17 minutes is pretty good I'd say.
You might consider checking the guides section for DVD Decrypter settings. Those settings can make a difference in time and accuracy of the rip.
As far as CPU and memory, As long as your system is reasonably up to date, it won't be as great a factor in ripping as it will encoding.

Other factors? A well maintained OS, and an orderly HDD will help you a lot when dealing with multimedia and large files. Simple, but effective and often overlooked.

Regards.

[pelsamra]

It takes me about an hour and five minutes to compress the DVD file to the desired size using DVD shrink. This is the part that takes up most of my time. Is this normal? Anyway to decrease this?

Thank you for everyone for their help

[pelsamra]

Here the procedure that I follow to rip, compress and burn:

DVD Decrypter - 17 min (does make any differnece in saving time or should I let DVD Shrink do it.)
DVD Shrink - 1hr and 2 min (Any other programs that can do this much quicker?)
CopytoDVD - 30 min (Any other programs that can do this much quicker?

Thanks for the help

[budz]

Just use DVD SHRINK to rip and compress. No need to use DVD DECRYPTER.

[pelsamra]

I read somewhere that it would be faster to first decrypt with DVD Decrytper and then use DVD Shrink. Am I totally wrong?

Thanks

[gOdiSOnyOuRsIDe]

I read somewhere that it would be faster to first decrypt with DVD Decrytper and then use DVD Shrink. Am I totally wrong?

Well, his question was the slow ripping speed of his drive and not the program. If your dvd-rom ripping speed is slow there's no software to 'boost' your ripping speed.
I'm currently using a Sony 16x DDU1621 and I get ripping speeds up to 12.3x with DVD Decrypter

[bdf24]

I almost bought a Liteon DVD-Rom for ripping. Went with the AOPEN instead due to a little bit cheaper price. I'm impressed. I can rip a DVD-9 with decrypter in around 10 to 12 minutes. Much better then my DVD Writer can do.

[Poppa_Meth]

as far as ripping with decryptor first, there are advantages to it but it isn't necessary usually. Decryptor can crack pretty much any encryption but Shrink sometimes has problems with some. if shrink can't do it right go with decryptor first. also when using deep analysis in shrink it will scan the disc in 2 passes, which means it'll work the dvd drive twice as hard. a lot of people like to rip to the HD first with decryptor and then run shrink with deep analysis to save wear on the DVD drive.

[rikk]

You need to post your computer specs. Your ripping speeds will vary with how fast your machine is.

You can have a fast ripping dvd-rom and it wont make a bit of difference if its on a slow computer. DVDShrink uses 100% of your cpu to rip. take a look at your task manager under processes next time you rip something.

Also if you are using compression it will make a huge difference. I can rip dvd-5's at 10X. Dvd-9's are about 3x.

Peace

[pelsamra]

I have a 1 ghz computer with about 516 mb of RAM with 2 slightly old hardrives. I have an LG 4040b burner and a JHLS/LiteOn DVD-ROM 16x. I'm curenlty compressing/ripping at maximum 3,567 kb/s with DVD Shrink. Is this normal? I'm thinking of just assembling/buying a computer soley based on hardware that can acheive fast ripping/compressing speeds. What does one need to achieve fast ripping/compressing speed regarding computer hardware, i.e. more ram, faster CPU. Any help would be appreciated.

[steptoe]

I've noticed that if using DVDDecrypter on an unprotected DVD, basically one of those cheapo budget films, then the ripping speed is about 2-3 times faster as it doesn't have to remove the CSS protection

I believe the slow rip speed is down to the software having to work on each file on-the-fly, hence slower ripping

There are various firmware hacks to force the DVD player to run higher rip speeds than designed, on the understanding that this could eventually lead to the DVD player giving up, when is unknown

My rip speed is around 1.9-2.2, so a full DVD rip takes about 40 minutes on average for a DVD-9, I'm in no rush, just allow more time thats all

As long as the job is completed, and DVDDEcrypter does its job, which it always does, I'm happy

I understand some people want to push this, or just are too impatient, assuming if they have the fastest computer on earth, then why does it take so long to perform xxx task

Down to the hardware, not the software

[pelsamra]

I'm a bit confused. If I have a LiteOn DVD-ROM that can read at 16X, does that mean I should be reading/ripping at 16, 000 KB/s? I'm currently able to rip on the fly with anyDVD and DVD Shrink at 3,204 KB/s. Is this normal with the LiteOn? As mentioned before I think I have all the proper setting enabled, i.e, UDMA, defragged hardrive, latest firmware, aspi drivers. Anything else I'm forgetting?

[kwebster]

Pelsamra:

I had the exact same issue with my XJ-HD166S. Check out the following link for my issue and solution.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/78814

In a nutshell, Windows had forced the transfer mode to PIO and would not let me change it back to DMA. I had gotten somewhere around 7 or 8 CRC errors from DVD Shrink over the previous month and I suspect this is why Windows forced PIO mode on my Lite-On drive (via http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/tech/storage/ide-dma.mspx). Even deleting the drive in Windows and allowing Windows to re-detect it didn't work. I had to actually delete the IDE controller (in Windows) that the drive was on and let Windows redetect that (along with the devices connected to it). This restored the DMA transfer mode of the drive and now everything works fine. Hope this helps.

[LiKaN]

I have the same prob. from 8-9 in ripping speed now done to 1.9...can it have some thing witch Vitual memory to do?

[guns1inger]

AMD 1800+, 768mb DDR, 200GB 7200 HDD (across 3 disks), NEC2500a with original firmware.

DVD Decryptor 15 - 20 minutes depending on amount of data
Nero Recode 2 20 - 30 minutes analysis, same again to transcode, 13 minutes to burn

In trying to rescue a couple of older disks that ripping can take a lot longer as read speeds drop to compensate for the poor surface. With one disk, decryptor reported 18 hours to go. I then resorted to 321 studios rescue package, and copied the Video_ts directory contents as files and worked from there. Much faster and managed to save things that my set top player would no longer read.

[fritzi93]

Is this normal with the LiteOn? As mentioned before I think I have all the proper setting enabled, i.e, UDMA, defragged hardrive, latest firmware, aspi drivers. Anything else I'm forgetting?

This might not be very helpful, but since you've asked more than once, here goes:

On my machine, I would NOT consider that normal performance. On your machine, maybe it is. Hardware limitation, as already suggested, assuming you really have eliminated other likely problems.

Here's the performance I get with the same drive: DVDDecrypter will work up to 3x fairly quickly, then steadily rise to over 9x at the layer break, at which point it starts slowing down again. Scratchy discs don't make it stick at a slow speed, if it's scratchy enough to cause problems, DVDDecrypter starts going into read error retries. Then you're talking hours, if it finishes at all.

Here's a dumb suggestion: Have you cleaned the lens? Long Shot.
Good luck.

[jeff1966]

I thought that I read some where on this forum that some dvd writers are locked at 2.00 ripping speed.

[pelsamra]

How does one go about cleaning the lense?