Ripping Karaoke DVD

[NEE]

Hi All,

I have been out of this forum for a while, but has anyone try to rip Karaoke DVD to SVCD/VCD and still keep the Karaoke feature? What I mean by this is that can you still have the singing feature turn on/off.

Please provide me location where I can get the information.

Thanks in advance for your help,
NEE

[ya_jai]

I did rip 2 karaoke dvd and play perfectly in my APEX. I'd prefer SVCD than VCD for karaoke.
For VCD you have to encode vocal and karaoke to mono left and mono right (one each side)
For SVCD I mux vocal and karaoke to 2 audio tracks with bbMPEG.

[yoshi1668]

which software do you use for encoding. I have a DVD that have the Karaoke in Audio 1 and vocal in Audio2.

[ya_jai]

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On 2001-10-23 11:17:09, yoshi1668 wrote:
which software do you use for encoding. I have a DVD that have the Karaoke in Audio 1 and vocal in Audio2.
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Are you asking me or NEE? yoshi.
I use TMPGenc 12a. I ripped both vocal and karaoke audio seperately then mux all with bbMPEG.

[ktnwin]

Hi ya_jai,
can you give a little more details on the exact steps (starting with TMPGEnc then bbMPEG) to produce the final MPEG file for burning SVCD.
Thanks.

[ya_jai]

I'm sorry that I replied you so late ktnwin. I just know today that this forum is up again. I've already done typing all the detail (quite a bit long) but I save it at my office. So I will post it on Monday or if you would, i can e-mail you just give me your e-mail address. Thanks

[Vx BaTtoUsAi]

frist rip the audio tracks with dvd2avi and encode each one to mono with cool edit.

then turn the two mono tracks to stero by puttin each mono track in each side. for example: vocal w/music go to left channel and just music w/no voccal goes to the right channel.

after that is all done save it as a wav file and use tmpeg to encode it to svcd/vcd by using your new stereo track with the dvd2avi d2v file. when you play it on your dvd player you should be able to switch channels.

I hope that is enough to help you.

[ya_jai]

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On 2001-11-03 13:16:15, Vx BaTtoUsAi wrote:
frist rip the audio tracks with dvd2avi and encode each one to mono with cool edit.

then turn the two mono tracks to stero by puttin each mono track in each side. for example: vocal w/music go to left channel and just music w/no voccal goes to the right channel.

after that is all done save it as a wav file and use tmpeg to encode it to svcd/vcd by using your new stereo track with the dvd2avi d2v file. when you play it on your dvd player you should be able to switch channels.

I hope that is enough to help you.
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For SVCD you don't have to mix 2 audio into left/right mono. You can mux them into 2 audio tracks that SVCD support for 4 audio tracks. And after all I cannot switch left/right channel with my dvd player.

[Vx BaTtoUsAi]

dats a good one ya-jai

[ya_jai]

Okay this is a detail how I rip karaoke in SVCD format, but before anything let me tell you that I'm a newbie as well.
I will start with DVD2avi instead because you need to prepare 2 audio files (vocal & karaoke) for TMPGenc. So first rip track#1(vocal) out of vobs file, then rip again but now change to track#2(karaoke). You might already know all about this but I give you a detail just in case.

Now for TMPGenc, you have two choices to do. First encode the whole karaoke DVD(every songs) in one very large file. Second choice, encode a song by song(meaning each song for each small file).

In first choice, you have to encode seperately between video file and 2 audio files(you will have 3 files after this process 1 m2v file and 2 mp2 files). After that you just mux all together in bbMPEG (you can put karaoke or vocal into first audio track, whatever you want). Then you can use VCDImager to make entrypoints for each song and menu for your KARAOKE SVCD. simple huh?
Pros: simple at first
not so many steps
Cons: complicate at the end (make entrypoints and menu for each song or cut each song in bbMPEG)
Cannot pick songs you want and a little bit harder to make it fit into one or two CDs

Now second choice and also my method, I encode each song seperately by using "Source flame range" in advance tab so I can have exact beginning and ending of each songs.
- With this method you have to encode two times for each song, and you have to encode video and audio together, first time for video+vocal second for video+karaoke (for less time consuming, I encode at high quality (slow) in first time and fastest for second time, because you need only one video file from first encode).
- Now you will have 2 mpeg files, next you demux them in TMPGenc(under mpeg tool) to seperate video and audio from those 2 mpeg files.
- Now you have 4 files (2 video files and 2 audio files), after that you have to mux one video file(the one with higher quality) and 2 audios (vocal+karaoke) in bbMPEG. Use bbMPEG for muxing mpeg2 file because TMPGenc SUCK!! .
- repeat all steps for each songs and then BURN and Enjoy. You can burn in NERO with simple menu or VCDImager with flexible menu.
Note: 1. if you know how to use "save project" and "batch encoding" in TMPGenc, it will save a lot of time and headache . How? will tell you later if you want.
2. You have to encode all with the same resolution setting, in order to generate the same file size in both audio files.
Pros: can pick only songs you want
easy to burn to CD
no headache for entrypoints
easy to arrange songs into each cd
Cons: a little more steps
take a lttle more time(but after you've finished first one you will find it's very easy)

Hope this guide is usefull for you

[morharsar]

Thank you, ya-jai. This is what I have been waiting for the last couple days.

[ya_jai]

Please be cautious about out of sync issue after mux all the files with bbMPEG. I have got out of sync problem after made a very long movie then cut and mux that movie with bbMPEG. I've check all SVCD karaoke I've made, all have same problem. This problem will occure after using "GOTO", "RW/FF" by audio will be behind movie about 1 sec. But if I play from the beginning to the end it would play fine.

My conclusion, Rip seperate song to each file. Don't use those funtion (GOTO, RW/FF) during playback. Do not chage between vocal and karaoke audio too often (that another one cause out of sync).