Severely bad VHS source

[briandugas]

I'm trying to put some VHS tapes on a DVD for a friend, and the source is horrible. My JVC with built-in TBC doesn't seem to help here. The video is very very jumpy and jittery. I posted some short 5 second clips that anyone can download if they want to see (right click and "save target as"):
http://members.cox.net/dugas/example1.mpg
http://members.cox.net/dugas/example2.mpg

They're both under 5MB. Anyway, I would like to know if this is a lost cause or what? I've tried 2 VCR's with the same result. I'm about to pull out my old 2 head crapo VCR and see if that helps.
On a side note, the VHS tape had issues. The tape came off of the spool inside the casing. Hard to explain, but I was able to get the tape back on right, with some wrinkling to a small section of the tape. I doubt this would affect the whole 3 hour tape, but I guess anything is possible. Anyway, if anyone is able to view those clips, please let me know what you think. Thanks.
-Brian

[GangstaMo]

Did u try Manual tracking,also a vcr with a flying erase head might help

Also try FF or RW a few times,also u can take out the spools & put it in another case..

These are just suggestions

[indolikaa]

Contact LordSmurf. Arrange for his services. Save yourself the headache.

[proxyx99]

Looks like misaligned tape transport. Frame high up. You may try another video plaver(s), you may get lucky to get one with same adjustm.
If you like to tinker with electronics open the VCR, on both sides of video head you will see ceramic tape rollers with large adjustment screws on top. You would need a flat screwdriver with a notch in the middle to be able to turn the screws. Note the position of the screws and try turning them (one at a time) left or right (make notes on number of turns so you can get back to the original). If sound is an issue you can also adjust Audio head (between rollers on the right hand side). Before you start doing that record something on a blank tape, about 10 min, of EP video, LP video and SP. EP and LP is important as these are most difficult to adjust. Good alignment on EP/LP is more precise then in SP. This will be your test tape to get back to your initial settings. Disconnect video from the wall for 10 min. to get auto tracking to default position (check VCR manual as well). The process is very simple and making notes of every adjustment step is absolutely necessary to get it properly back to the starting point.

[lordsmurf]

MPEG samples not online, cannot see.

[Tommyknocker]

Looks like manual tracking may be in order to me as well.

[briandugas]

I appreciate all the help. Looks like I posted a little too soon. I put the VHS video in my crapo GE 4head Hi-FI vcr and it plays fine. I'll have to just settle with using the composite cables rather than S-Video. I can't wait 'till we are done with VCR's and magnetic tape storage.

[Capmaster]

I appreciate all the help. Looks like I posted a little too soon. I put the VHS video in my crapo GE 4head Hi-FI vcr and it plays fine. I'll have to just settle with using the composite cables rather than S-Video. I can't wait 'till we are done with VCR's and magnetic tape storage.

I doubt you'd ever see the difference on a VHS cap between S-video and composite if your cable is shorter than 10 feet or so.

[proxyx99]

I'm not surprised that another VHS machine played it correctly. Good that you have tried it. Sometimes the solution is much simpler then one might think.