Shrink backups playing blurry?

[Chip718]

Hello. I have been having the same problem with my last few backups using the latest version of Shrink. Even thought the movies are backup at 100%, when I view them the video quality seems blurry and soft. Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks in advance for any info.

[FulciLives]

Hello. I have been having the same problem with my last few backups using the latest version of Shrink. Even thought the movies are backup at 100%, when I view them the video quality seems blurry and soft. Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks in advance for any info.

When you say the movies are backup at 100% you mean with no compression?

Also what version are you using? To the best of my knowledge the newest most current version of DVDShrink is 3.1.7.5

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Chip718]

Right, no compression. I just check my ver. of Shrink and it is 3.1.7.6

[FulciLives]

Right, no compression. I just check my ver. of Shrink and it is 3.1.7.6

I've made back-ups using DVDShrink with no compression. Usually I do this to keep extras. I make a second back-up DVD where I use STILL IMAGES for the MAIN FEATURE but keep everything else. This allows full menu control to access the extras. Then I make a second MOVIE ONLY back-up usually using DVD2ONE since I favor it's compression engine.

Anyways I've never noticed the DVDShrink back-ups that don't have compression to look "odd" at all including what you are experiencing ... soft blurry image.

However I haven't done this with DVDShrink with the newest version.

Maybe a new bug? Who knows ... they crank out new versions like mad as of late.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[jaeshin]

Hmm... very curious.

In fact, I've wondering why DVDShrinked movies look fuzzy lately. In some scenes, I noticed that the screen was fuzzy for a second or so and normal for another, alternating. I am also using 3.1.7.6 version.

This was especially noticeable in Minority Report. Of course, that movie's over two hours long so I think it was compressed at a lower rate. But I.Q. which was not compressed (I think) also shows fuzziness in some scenes.

Maybe the program?

[FulciLives]

You two should maybe report this to DVDShrink as a possible BUG in version 3.1.7.6

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

DVDShrink website link:
http://www.dvdshrink.org/

[bdf24]

I've backed up about a half a dozen movies with the 3.1.7.6 version and have'nt noticed any fuzzy or soft images. Maybe I'll have to go back and watch the movies again to see if it's there or not.

"UPDATE"
I just finished watching bad boys which I backed up with the newest version and did'nt notice any bluryness. Also the other night I watched Reign of Fire which I also backed up with 3.1.7.6 and did'nt notice any bluryness either.

What sort of TV's are you guys watching the movies on? HDTV, Plasma? I'm only using a 36" RCA thru S-Video cable. So maybe I cant notice it?

[netgeek]

I am having the same problem. I thought it was my dvd player but i guess not.

[FulciLives]

@bdf24
You said you saw no problems with BAD BOYS and REIGN OF FIRE
How did you back them up?
In other words did you have to use any compression or not?

@netgeek
Do you notice the problem with back-ups that were compressed or only on back-ups that you did not have to compress.

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I'm asking these questions because it might be an error that only becomes visible when you make a back-up without using any compression.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[bdf24]

Reign of fire was backed up using around 90% compression ratio I believe. And Bad Boys needed no compression at all. And I did'nt notice any blurring on either movie.

[netgeek]

compression ratio was around 75%

[FulciLives]

Well now we have people saying they have seen it and have not seen it both with and without compression.

So I don't know what to say.

You guys and gals are all on your own here ... I was just trying to help but truth be told I barely use DVDShrink these days.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[eugenile]

IT IS IMPORTANT to let us know what TV you guys are viewing this stuff on..

because on a normal picture tube using svideo or rca.. u will not notice the difference..

but people on plasma/dlp/lcd widescreen hdtvs using component input.. you will definitely see the compression

i definitely see the compression with my episode dvds.. chapelle show season 1.. i just did 1:1 copy with compression on whatever it needs.. playin on a 56" dlp/component.. i think it was at 60% per episode and there is a few per disc.. but i watch it on the regular 36" sony picture tube via s-video.. and its not noticible..

so tv hardware is important..

[tatty]

Devastated to hear about the poor guys with blurry 54" plasma screens. Just thought you'd like to know that my ripped-off/double-shrunk copy of Mary Poppins plays just fine on my 14" Marconiphone (dual-standard) 405 line TV. The sound's a bit fuzzy, though. Do you think AC3 or MP2 would work better through a 3" metal cone speaker?

[hech54]

Devastated to hear about the poor guys with blurry 54" plasma screens. Just thought you'd like to know that my ripped-off/double-shrunk copy of Mary Poppins plays just fine on my 14" Marconiphone (dual-standard) 405 line TV. The sound's a bit fuzzy, though. Do you think AC3 or MP2 would work better through a 3" metal cone speaker?

[hitechjunkie]

i've been using v3.05b exclusively for all of my dvd9-to-dvd5 conversions/compressions up until two weeks ago. i downloaded v3.17? and performed a couple of conversions and saw some really noticeable video artifacts on the resultant dvd5 backup that i had never, ever seen before using v3.05b. it's a very annoying, blocky, softening or blurring of the video which then sharpens and occurs time and time again, during some but not all scene changes, throughout the entire disc. i'm going back to v3.05b.

[netgeek]

I am using a 10-12 year old Hitatchi television with RCA cables. I've never had a program like this with any of my other dvd's.

[bdf24]

Don't know but I don't get any artifacts or blurriness in my backups with the the newest Shrink? I keep looking for them but I don't see anything. Looks normal.

[hitechjunkie]

i just checked and the version i used was v3.1.7.6 and it was on a source with episodes (Voyager), if that makes a difference. i don't think i tried it with a movie disc - i just happen to be watching the backup copy of Voyager and completely freaked out when i saw the video artifacts and thought maybe it was a bad burn but checked another backup and saw the same thing. i immediately went back to using v3.05b and didn't see the video artifacts (still using same burner and spindle of disks). might have something to do with the source DVD in some way. i'll try to post a pic when i get chance.

[nickelzy]

Fulci - you wrote:

You guys and gals are all on your own here ... I was just trying to help but truth be told I barely use DVDShrink these days.

If you don't use DVD Shink much any more, what do you now use and why?

[FulciLives]

Fulci - you wrote:

You guys and gals are all on your own here ... I was just trying to help but truth be told I barely use DVDShrink these days.

If you don't use DVD Shink much any more, what do you now use and why?

I prefer DVD2ONE but sometimes I DVDShrink when I want the extras ... I use DVD2ONE for the MOVIE ONLY and then I make a second DVD with DVDShrink where I reduce the MOVIE to STILL IMAGES or STILL PICTURES whatever that option is ... so that usually makes the disc small enough that you get the menu and all the extras without compressing/transcoding them.

But I don't use DVDShrink for transcoding the feature or the whole DVD (which I sometimes do with DVD2ONE if the whole DVD is not that much over 4.37GB)

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[proxyx99]

In this case wouldn't copying to 2 DVD's (DVDXcopy style) be better?
Zero loss.

[bdf24]

In this case wouldn't copying to 2 DVD's (DVDXcopy style) be better?
Zero loss.

Yes but then you gotta switch the disk at some point in the movie. If you do it the way FulciLives does it atleast then you don't have to switch the disk during the movie. But if you wanna ceck out the extra's and everything else you can insert the other disk.

[FulciLives]

In this case wouldn't copying to 2 DVD's (DVDXcopy style) be better?
Zero loss.

Yes but then you gotta switch the disk at some point in the movie. If you do it the way FulciLives does it atleast then you don't have to switch the disk during the movie. But if you wanna ceck out the extra's and everything else you can insert the other disk.

Bingo!

That is exactly why I do it that way

Also with some dual layer discs the movie alone with just one audio track either requires zero or very little compression.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[arcorob]

I don't think it has anything to do with compression....It is a bug in the latest release. I never had amn issue with older releases but I just noticed the same thing reecently on the latest.

I tend to get about 65% because I take the whole disk, eliminate foreign (to me) languages and reduce some things to stills...But i never saw blurry or blocky video.

Just did a few last week and thought my eyes were going fuzzy...LOL

Like a light guaze effect....Hmm...Go to try the older version.

[h8sh8]

Fulci - you wrote:

You guys and gals are all on your own here ... I was just trying to help but truth be told I barely use DVDShrink these days.

If you don't use DVD Shink much any more, what do you now use and why?

I prefer DVD2ONE but sometimes I DVDShrink when I want the extras ... I use DVD2ONE for the MOVIE ONLY and then I make a second DVD with DVDShrink where I reduce the MOVIE to STILL IMAGES or STILL PICTURES whatever that option is ... so that usually makes the disc small enough that you get the menu and all the extras without compressing/transcoding them.

But I don't use DVDShrink for transcoding the feature or the whole DVD (which I sometimes do with DVD2ONE if the whole DVD is not that much over 4.37GB)

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

I've been doing the same thing pretty much, but using CloneDVD for the extras disc so the movie can be removed completely instead of having still images with dvdshrink. Haven't had one extras disc yet need compression this way.

Also been doing pretty much the same thing with CloneDVD on one disc keeping the movie and some extras, while completely removing some other extras. This can sometimes make the movie not need any compression if you compress the extras enough in dvdshrink afterwards. You got to use CloneDVD2 for this though so you can output the files from it without compression by setting the custom disc size to 8gbs or whatever is large enough.

[videsiboy]

Not only blurryness, when I am browsing through chapters (with Next Chapter button on my DVD player remote), the movie is getting stuck at 3rd chapter. This is happening recently.

Don't know whether anybody else is facing this problem.

[DVDeeZ]

can anyone else confirm if they notice these problems as well? I have only used dvdshrink since it was released and haven't noticed this in the newest version (3.1.7.6.) I don't have a Plasma T.V but I'm interested in knowing for those who do have Plasma TV's if they can also confirm this problem. I'll watch a couple of movies tonight and try and look out for these issues but i'm surprised this post doesn't have more posts as I'm pretty sure tons more people use DVD Shrink. I'm more curious if there are ANY people who own Plasma or HDTV's and use DVDSHRINK who can say they haven't noticed this issue at all. If that's the case then maybe it's only to specific movies. My main concern is that people are saying with "NO COMPRESSION" this issue exists.

I just did Gothika and the compression was like less then 1% for the main movie. That would really suck if this issue is noticeable on a movie like Gothika where it was barely compressed. Anyone else also do Gothika and notice this issue?