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  1. Thats the question...I have spent at least 15hours reading the many varied media reports on this site, and now am more confused than ever.
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    If anything..there is an advantage to using -Rs
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  3. As of the moment, we are seeing higher speed media in +Rs faster than the -Rs.
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    and higher compatability in -Rs
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  5. .....and bitsetting on + so that disc becames DVD-ROM which is THE MOST COMPATIBLE ever....

    the problem is this way....

    1.if your dvd player reads + and - then...go for + because is faster.
    2.if not, but if you still want to keep the speed, then you can buy a burner as NEC 1300 use a hacked firmware to change the bitsetting.....and voila, you get the most compatible disc, DVD-ROM
    3.if none of the above...then get a -

    I, personally prefer bitsetting, because I get the most compatible disc...and as long as the disc is dvd-rom, any dvd player reads that disc...

    and for the records....all dvd these days burn + and -

    have fun.....
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  6. I have no technical info to report, but a personal observation: I just bought a pc that will only record DVD+R (this was not a contemplated decision, it just turned out the best PC deal I found). In shopping for discs, I have noticed that there seem to be many more -R discs available in stores, and more good deals on -R. Whether they're trying to unload
    -R or it's just the more popular format and therefore better stocked and marketed (or if it's just the universe conspiring against me), I don't know.
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    Originally Posted by Bisbee
    In shopping for discs, I have noticed that there seem to be many more -R discs available in stores, and more good deals on -R. Whether they're trying to unload -R or it's just the more popular format and therefore better stocked and marketed (or if it's just the universe conspiring against me), I don't know.
    In what country?
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  8. USA. I went shopping again yesterday and definitely came to the same conclusion, the DVD-R discs are piled to the ceiling while the +R's are a hunt.
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  9. Originally Posted by Lashlarue
    Is there any advantage using DVD+Rs OVER DVD-Rs?

    NO.
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  10. Well, in my part of the country, +r seems to be the more prominent media choice.

    In drives you find +R or dual format drives - I have not seen a -R drive in about 6 months.

    Media is either 80-20% + to -. There are always deals, sales, discounts on +R, hardley ever for -R. And around here, they are the same base price.

    So, for me, there is a benefit of having +R, at the moment.

    I would say, though, that as long as the media plays in your DVD player, it doesn't matter which one.
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    Yes,

    +R can burn up to 4.38GB. -R less than that a bit.
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    Originally Posted by Bisbee
    USA. I went shopping again yesterday and definitely came to the same conclusion, the DVD-R discs are piled to the ceiling while the +R's are a hunt.
    At What Price? If it is pile to the ceiling with dirt cheap sale price, then it is good. Otherwise, it doesn't matter.
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    Originally Posted by vuphan
    Yes,

    +R can burn up to 4.38GB. -R less than that a bit.
    Yeah, DVD-R can only burn 4.38GB

    In my neck of the woods DVD-R deals are pretty common. Some of the stores are selling them in spindles of 50 for about 70 cents each, and mail-order is as low as 47 cents. I think -R are still cheaper than +R.
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  14. lenti_75 can you expand on your comments regarding the 'bitsetting' / dvd_rom support.... very interesting concept and a plus for the pluses

    TJ
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  15. Originally Posted by vuphan
    Yes,

    +R can burn up to 4.38GB. -R less than that a bit.
    Definitely not true.
    The PLUS actually holds 6MB's less than the MINUS.


    Originally Posted by tjborwn101
    lenti_75 can you expand on your comments regarding the 'bitsetting' / dvd_rom support.... very interesting concept and a plus for the pluses

    TJ
    Please do a little search TJ you can find tons of infos about it on this site



    One advantage using DVD+RW over DVD-RW right here
    https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212260
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  16. there is only 1 moe thing to say....
    they came out with + dual layer .....why not - ???? because that was the first standard, which sucked, so they made + to correct that problem.
    it's a lot faster, and better designed.
    and as of compatiblity.....this will be history.
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    Originally Posted by lenti_75
    there is only 1 moe thing to say....
    they came out with + dual layer .....why not - ???? because that was the first standard, which sucked, so they made + to correct that problem.
    it's a lot faster, and better designed.
    and as of compatiblity.....this will be history.
    You clearly have no idea what you are talking about or are lying on purpose. I could care less which it is.

    The fact is that the DVD-R format (including DVD-RW and DVD-RAM) is the only official format.

    Philips was mad, upset, hurt whatever that their format was not picked.

    So they decided to market it on their own.

    Philips is like a baby crying over spilt milk.

    DVD+R anything is the basterd child of a bitter bitch.

    Pioneer will have dual layer DVD-R discs out by the end of the year and I will be waiting rather than use the dual layer DVD+R discs.

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  18. I can't believe people are still fighting over this shit.
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    Originally Posted by tompika
    I can't believe people are still fighting over this shit.
    Well it is hard to let it go when the +R people love to make shit up. You even had to correct an error yourself with the FACT that DVD-R has more capacity than DVD+R eventhough it is by such a small amount so as to not really be a big deal ... but you did notice how the person that said it tried to make it sound like a bad thing for -R

    It's just crazy !!!

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  20. Both DVD+R and DVD-R suck!!

    DVD*R rules!
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    Originally Posted by triphop
    Both DVD+R and DVD-R suck!!

    DVD*R rules!
    DVD*R!!!

    LOL!!! 8) :P :P
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  22. Well said triphop. DVD*R is the best because:

    1) It has 3 layers (not just a dual or single layer)
    2) It is more compatable (even plays in VHS recorders)
    3) Fully printable (you can even print in color with a black & white printer)

    beats the hell out of DVD + or -
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    Originally Posted by offline
    Well said triphop. DVD*R is the best because:

    1) It has 3 layers (not just a dual or single layer)
    2) It is more compatable (even plays in VHS recorders)
    3) Fully printable (you can even print in color with a black & white printer)

    beats the hell out of DVD + or -
    I whole heartedly disagree! DVD~R is going to take the day.
    It has 100 layers each holding 44megs
    Its compatible with all Laser Disc Players, AND the old RCA VIDEO DISC!
    AND you can print both on the top and bottom of the disc!!
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  24. Originally Posted by Flaystus
    Originally Posted by offline
    Well said triphop. DVD*R is the best because:

    1) It has 3 layers (not just a dual or single layer)
    2) It is more compatable (even plays in VHS recorders)
    3) Fully printable (you can even print in color with a black & white printer)

    beats the hell out of DVD + or -
    I whole heartedly disagree! DVD~R is going to take the day.
    It has 100 layers each holding 44megs
    Its compatible with all Laser Disc Players, AND the old RCA VIDEO DISC!
    AND you can print both on the top and bottom of the disc!!
    Instigators. You're trying to get something rolling again. Like the thread that ended up with backing up DVDs on cave walls using cow's blood. :P
    Pull! Bang! Darn!
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    Originally Posted by fritzi93
    Instigators. You're trying to get something rolling again. Like the thread that ended up with backing up DVDs on cave walls using cow's blood. :P
    I would never suggest such a thing, exposure to air makes blood a HORRIBLE backup medium. I still stand by stone tables for lasting backups.
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    From personal experience (I'll leave the tech-heads pick their navel fluff over the minutae) I have found no reaseon to support one format over another.

    I used to love Verbatim -R, but after a few bad disks I swapped over to TDK +R because they were on offer at the time. I've stuck with TDK +R ever since, but I'm sure their -R is just as good.

    To all the -/+R flamers out there: give it up - just let people be happy with whatever they've bought. What do you have to gain by bitching about it?
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  27. whole heartedly disagree! DVD~R is going to take the day.
    It has 100 layers each holding 44megs
    Its compatible with all Laser Disc Players, AND the old RCA VIDEO DISC!
    AND you can print both on the top and bottom of the disc!!
    DVD~R is history. When the Aliens abducted me for experiments I had
    to wait my turn and hidden behind a stack of old Time magazines and
    a box of brightly colored toys was, lo and behold, a brand new DV*R burner (Made in Sirus.)

    Instigators. You're trying to get something rolling again. Like the thread that ended up with backing up DVDs on cave walls using cow's blood
    Silly person. Everyone knows that bats droppings degrade cows blood in
    caves
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  28. I still stand by stone tables for lasting backups.
    Try filming the battle of waterloo with a couple of stone tables
    tied around your neck!!?? You want something more portable..
    like wombat doo.

    Nothing beats Wombat Doo for shear portability !
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  29. Apostates!!!!

    DVD*R is the only format that has holy water sprinkled on it. Additionally its Kosher and Halaal.

    BUY DVD*R - the only format that the Pope, The Grand Imam and The Chief Rabbi can agree on.
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  30. Additionally its Kosher and Halaal
    Really! I did not know that. Do you toast, boil or roast it?
    I wondered why McDonalds taste just like DVD+R.

    hmm..
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