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  1. Originally Posted by Flaystus

    I would never suggest such a thing, exposure to air makes blood a HORRIBLE backup medium. I still stand by stone tables for lasting backups.
    Sure, but for a rewritable format, use what the Cro-Magnons did. You know, ochers, metal oxides, to put these substances in solution you need cow PISS, not cow blood. Very little degradation for THEIR cave painting backups. A media longevity test you can truly rely on.
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  2. You will burn in ***H*E*L*L*** for using those pagan formats! Leave the darkness and come to the holy cleansing of the one, true format:

    DVD*R
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  3. Originally Posted by triphop
    You will burn in ***H*E*L*L*** for using those pagan formats! Leave the darkness and come to the holy cleansing of the one, true format:

    DVD*R
    Okay, supposing I mend my ways, will I have hardware/software conflicts? Or will it be necessary to perform an exorcism, er, format/reinstall?
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  4. Oh triphop,

    That contract thing you made me sign - the one in blood.
    On page 15 where it should state that when I die and go to
    paradise I get 72 virgins for using DVD*R? Well my
    copy says "a 72 year old virgin."

    I sure hope thats a typo
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  5. -R. every time.i sell dvd to the whole nation & -R is my friend.
    +R has been nowt but trouble 4 me regards them playing in so many different DVD players.+R is destined to be the BETAMAX of DVD.watch this space.
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    I think they will come up with the new DVD+/-A (A = anything format). This new DVD will be able to morph from innocent looking DVD, to LP-sized Laserdiscs, to VHS, to Beta, to 8mm, to VHS-C, to mini-DV, or anything.

    It will also be intuitive, capable of transforming itself to future formats and capacities. It will also be capable of anticipating annoying arguments between +R and -R formats and even invent some new ones. It will also be capable of doing more than just RSDL - it will be capable of 3-dimensional spiral layers challenging the limits of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. It will be capable of making a perfect 8-minute omlette and toast.

    Jokes aside, I found some fairly "layman"-friendly websites that detail the differences. Most people won't even care as to the actual differences anyway. DVD-R, as already noted, is the "official" format. However, DVD+R is also seeing some considerable use and I personally have not had compatibility issues. This is beginning to sound like the whole VHS/Beta debate all over again...in the end, the better format LOST. So we'll see...it's all going to be about marketing and I think the direction the industry will go is to adopt BOTH so they can capture the market share of nitpickers everywhere. :P

    Here are the links:

    http://netforbeginners.about.com/cs/multimedia/a/DVD_discs_2.htm

    http://www.disctronics.co.uk/downloads/tech_docs/dvdintroduction.pdf
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    I love how these posts degenerate into pure madness.

    Quick answer: no.

    DVD+R benefit: less bad media choices.
    DVD-R benefit: overall compatibility (bitsetting still cannot beat it).

    There are no size or speed benefits, both are neck-n-neck in that regard, within a few meg, within a few seconds.
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  8. It's nothing to do with marketing!
    it's to do with price & compatability.DVD pirates will probably decide the out-come, because they buy the most discs, & they, at the moment are definately heading in the -R direction!!!!!! because -R is king for these people.REMEMBER........ price & compatability.thats what counts.& THEY don't give a toss about bitsetting!!!!!!
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    Since when did pirates give a toss - are they offering money back guarantees now?

    There's enough of a market for both formats to exist quite nicely, especially as practically all of the newer set-top players support both - and + formats.
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    Interesting theory regarding piracy... if it's true, perhaps the -R format might be the reason that the MOVIE INDUSTRY might want to quash it.

    -R manufacturers might see the boon, but there is lot of muscle from special interest groups out there. Don't downplay coporate power.
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    Originally Posted by bugster
    Originally Posted by Lashlarue
    Is there any advantage using DVD+Rs OVER DVD-Rs?

    NO.
    Me too...

    NO

    I go for price...the price for Ritek's.
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    Originally Posted by hech54
    Originally Posted by bugster
    Originally Posted by Lashlarue
    Is there any advantage using DVD+Rs OVER DVD-Rs?

    NO.
    Me too...

    NO

    I go for price...the price for Ritek's.
    Only if you have an older DVD player (like me) that will only play -R. Then there is an advantage to using one over the other. If you're in doubt about which format to use, go with the -R because they will work in anything.
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  13. unfortunately sales are more powerfull than special interest groups,
    i am sympathetic but when i go into my local shop & buy 25 dvdrs,
    there's always some twat in scruffy clothes buying 1,000, bragging about all the latest full quality screeners he's got!! & how buisness is booming.
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    unfortunately sales are more powerfull than special interest groups,
    i am sympathetic but when i go into my local shop & buy 25 dvdrs,
    there's always some twat in scruffy clothes buying 1,000, bragging about all the latest full quality screeners he's got!! & how buisness is booming
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    We only drive the threads crazy cause it more fun then a flamewar.

    Originally Posted by Sooner02
    Only if you have an older DVD player (like me) that will only play -R. Then there is an advantage to using one over the other. If you're in doubt about which format to use, go with the -R because they will work in anything.
    Do we still accept this excuse? I suggest we take a vote to no longer do so. If you can afford a DVD burner you can afford a $50 apex DVD player.
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  16. Could we not say that since the +R crowd had more time to develop their format there are bound to be some improvements. I have heard the track wobble story... Also, noting that +RW is much easier to work with than -RW - waiting for -RW disks to finalize is like waiting for Godot.

    But other than these small things, I dont care too much.
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    Originally Posted by triphop
    I have heard the track wobble story... Also, noting that +RW is much easier to work with than -RW - waiting for -RW disks to finalize is like waiting for Godot..
    Why DVD+R(W) is superior to DVD-R(W):

    http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/113

    High speed DVD-RW media incompatibility with old drives heats up format war:

    http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/9334
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    Originally Posted by Lashlarue
    Thats the question...I have spent at least 15hours reading the many varied media reports on this site, and now am more confused than ever.
    If the poor guy was confused then , his brain has probably turned to jelly by now. Thank god he didn't ask for a recommended make. LOL
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