DVDinfoPro = Who Cares???

[nickelzy]

I don't mean to imply that DVDinfoPro isn't a good program and doesn't have any value, but for me, I think I got a little side tracked with all of the testing that I was doing yesterday. From an earlier post (if you followed it), you would know that I was one of the people who took advantage of that deal at Office Depot in which I got 200 discs (4 50 pack spindles) of Memorex DVD+R media for only $128 (after tax/shipping) - which works out to be about 64 cents a disc. I was excited about my purchase and after duplicating about 10 movies and having success, I wasn't feeling anxious anymore about my decision to keep the CMC made discs (which I was hoping would be Ricoh, but were not).

THEN, I decided to do some testing, per someone's suggestion who uses only made in Japan media, in DVDinfoPro and found that 6 out of 7 discs that I checked all had about 80 or so errors on them all at about the 99% mark. I have to admit, that got me a little panicked about my purchase so I was minutes away from returning them to office depot and going to Best Buy to pick up some of the TDK DVD+R discs (which are Ricoh) that are on sale for $25 for a spindle of 25. Well, after I tested 4 of my Ricoh discs, I found the same kind of errors that I had on my CMC discs.

So now what? Well, I went back and tested the movies on my dvd player, and although I didn't watch from beginning to end with each movie, I did check each chapter especially towards the end of the movie and found no problems with either the CMC or Ricoh discs. Therefore, this brings me to my point - why the hell even test discs in DVDinfoPro?

Hell, if they work on your standalone players (as I tested them out on 3 separate players - a Sony, Toshiba, and Panasonic) then who cares how many "errors" dvdinfopro reports. Additionally, does it even matter if there are errors at the 99% mark anyway?

So this brings me back to my original question: DvdInfoPro = who cares? Am I wrong by saying that the only people who really care about testing their media and having it come back error free are the same people who shell out more cash for "so called better media" to support their decision to do so? My intent is not to slam anyone's decision to use the program but instead to ask the question, why would you be the least bit interested with the results of the program if your discs seem to work fine on multiple dvd players?

I have to admit, I found myself getting all caught up into this testing, and almost made a decision on my media due to it. Fortunately before I made a decision to return my so called "inferior media", I also tested the so called "superior media - Ricoh" and found the same errors.

Bottom line for me is what I've learned is that unless my DVD player shows me that there are errors (by stuttering, freezing, pixelation problems, etc.) then I will keep a smile on my face and keep on keepin' on.

[hech54]

What happens when you get a disc like this in the mail from someone who uses Memorsux DVDR's...

....and SWEARS he could not have sent me a bad disc since he uses nothing but quality Memorex DVDR's?
I must admit....I started to laugh out loud immediately.

I stopped the test at 517 errors because I believe I had seen enough.....and it was nowhere NEAR the 99% mark yet.

I have NEVER had any of my Ritek(so called superior media) show ANY errors.
ONE error is too many....even at .64 cents each.

[offline]

Welcome to the fold brother!

Although I have been lucky to have only two DVDs with errors,
one of them would not even play back in my burner but worked
fine in my player. I still carry it around as part of my test cd's
and have so far played it on more than 50 players with only
two rejecting it so far. The dye is uneven throughout and you can see
a slight wobbly spiral effect in strong light.

Am I wrong by saying that the only people who really care about testing their media and having it come back error free are the same people who shell out more cash for "so called better media" to support their decision to do so?

As I do not see errors with DVDinfo on 99.9% of the discs
I have tested, I still test two out of every cake as I burn right
to the limit - even sometimes without the leadout track.

The bottom line is if it works for you, go with it. The current argument
over quality is a repeat of the same issues we had when CDR was
introduced. Some screamed that you must buy XYZ brand at a premium price while many others quietly purchased what they could budget for and had perfect or near perfect results.

[shelbyGT]

i have had riteks that have read errors, usually because of how they were packaged/sent to me in the spindle. it's usually the top 2 and bottom 2 that have all sorts of scrapes. Kind of pisses me off, won't be using that vendor again.

[lordsmurf]

Errors has a lot to do with the DVD-ROM or DVD-R/+R drive doing the testing too.

This is why I only use Pioneer DVD-ROM drives for testing. The if a disc fails, I test it again in the BTC burner (well known at being great reader).

I don't test discs unless the player chokes. And I do testing on sample media and new media I try.

So who cares? The ones with a sound method. Sounds like your PC drives is having trouble reading edges of discs.

Remember... these are READ errors... so jacking around while on the PC while it tests can give bad bogus results too.

[Espen]

Well I think it has alot to do with wheter you use aspi or spti settings in dvdinfopro. If I use spti I get lots of errors on all my disks, even the originals. Then if I use aspi i don't seem to get any error at all, not even on the bad ones, that dosen't play in my standalone players. However sometimes I can get read errors on a dvd that didn't gave me read errors one hour earlier.

So I can't say I trust Infopro that much. It's bad because this little program could have been very helpful finding out the bad disks.

[tompika]

DVDInfoPRO (regardless of ASPI/SPTI) and Nero CD Speed give similar results.

Scan of a scratched disc.

[The village idiot]

Remember... these are READ errors... so jacking around while on the PC while it tests can give bad bogus results too.

On one of my slower machines, I can cause Nero CD speed to read an error by moving the mouse around.

[kirpen]

The only reason I care is because my 811s wont burn cmc at 8x. Since I cant find out until after the purchase it matters not anyway. One thing I dont understand is why people love kprobe tests. My only tests of a dvd is if it works on stand alone players.