Burn Speeds

[nickelzy]

Quick question for ya guys - I started a thread last night regarding some stuttering/freezing problems that I'm having with my dvd copies. In an attempt to fix the problem I noticed that in many of the cases, the labels were the culprit. In other cases, I'm not sure what else is causing my problems but since changing some of the ways that I now copy and burn dvd's, out of 10 discs, I've only had one bad copy (and the interesting thing is that this only occurred when I slowed down the speed in my burning software - CopytoDVD program. That brings me to my question...

I've burned 9 discs successfully at 4x speed using Memorex 4x media.
I changed things up to experiment and tried burning at 2.0x and the disc couldn't be read by my dvd player for more than the first 4-5 seconds of the disc. CopytoDVD allows you to select speeds of:

min
1.0x
1.2x
1.4x
2.0x
2.4x
2.8x
4.0x
max

Like I stated earlier, the only problem so far was when I tried burning at 2.0x. My question is are you theoretically suppose to be able to choose any of the above speeds and burn successfully? I wasn't sure if perhaps some of the speeds are contingent on factors that I'm unaware of and maybe the 2.0x speed isn't compatible with my disc. I don't know - just trying to make sense of this before I simply blame the media for being fickle.

[tmann]

That's strange -- it was my understanding that burning at a lower speed may produce a better (ie, more easily playable and longer lasting) DVD. I typically burn at the lowest speed possible if I have the time, just to ensure the least risk possible. I would hope I'm wrong about all this, because I'd LOVE to burn everything at 4x if I could.

[redwudz]

I've been using a Pioneer 106 and have always burned at 4X with no problems. I know when I burned SVCD's with a CD burner the advice was to burn at the 'native speed' of the burner (40X), never had any problems there either. If burning DVD's at the lowest speed was the best, you might as well buy an old 1X burner and be happy. I'll stick with 4X until I get a 8X burner.

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[budz]

Some older standalone dvd players are not able to playback 8x burned dvds correctly. My Plextor 708A burns RICOH 4x DVD+R @ 8x speed and they playback ok on my standalone dvd players.

[garryheather]

Some older standalones don't like recordable media, period.

If the writer has written to the disc correctly (ie correct write strategy) and the media is OK, then it should make no odds whatsoever what speed you burnt it at.

[MikeV]

What DVDRW are you using and what type + or _ , and brand DVDR/RW are you using. The type of DVDR/RW will make a difference in what speed you can record.

[glockjs]

2.4x is more of a standard burn speed than 2x. 1 out of 10 products has defect from manufacturerer has probs, no matter what it is.dvd player. jitter on burner makes difference. sometimes bad burn for no reason. air temp. time of day and stress level haha, too many damn variables. who knows..

[nickelzy]

Yeah I know, you are bound to have problems every once in a while - but kind of funny that since I updated DVD Shrink and changed my burning method from Nero to CopytoDVD and don't use labels anymore that the only time in the last 12 attempts that I've only had one unsuccessful movie (and that was when I attempted the burn at 2.0x speed). I know what I need to do is try again at 2.0x with a movie that burned successfully already and see if I experience problems again (but man, last week when I was having all of these problems, I probably wasted 15 discs - I hate to lose anymore, but I'll give it a try nonetheless and let you know what happens). I'm just wondering if some speeds (such as 2.0x) aren't as compatible/standard as say 2.4 or 4.0 and perhaps that's why it didn't work. Just trying to make sense of this all, which I'm finding is near impossible!

[glockjs]

if 4x works for you why cause probs?

[garryheather]

2.4x is more of a standard burn speed than 2x.

Not in the -R world, it isn't...

[nickelzy]

Couple of things...

if 4x works for you why cause probs?

I was waiting for someone to ask me this, because that's a very good question. The only reason that I tried this to begin with is that before I started burning at 4x, I thought that I'd burn slower (such as at the 2.0x speed) to hopefully decrease the chances of having any problems. I'm VERY happy that 4x works, because that's the speed I obviously want to use anyway. However, the reason I bring it up is that this should have worked. And as I'm trying to isolate what is giving me problems, I was wondering if this might shed more light onto what the problem is. I was thinking more and more after this occurred that it was looking like maybe the media was the factor that was possibly giving me problems. I'm just trying to figure out what is causing my problems - as for burning at 2.0x speed, I could care less (because I am MUCH happier at 4x!)

glockjs wrote:
2.4x is more of a standard burn speed than 2x.

Not in the -R world, it isn't...

When you state that not in the -R world it isn't - are you talking about DVD-R media? I get confused (being fairly new with all of this) when people write dvd-r if they're talking about dvd recording media or the -R format. I use DVD+R media, so that's why I was wondering if the 2.0x might not be as compatible with this media as perhaps 2.4 or 4.0x is.