What kind of TV do u have to test quality of ur finished dvd

[eugenile]

i have seen several post about quality..

wat people forget about is all of us have different home theatre setups..

so to some who say quality is great but is viewing it on a normal 27" picture tube using rca plug.. can be crap to someone viewing it on a plasma tv using dvi connector..

i think this will help those who are picky about quality..

i myself am viewing my dvds on a 56 inch widescreen DLP via component ouput (progressive scan)..

my main programs i use are

dvd decrypter
dvd shrink 3.1.5
dvd2svcd (dvd2dvd)
cce 2.5

i aim for NO COMPRESSION at all.. for easy movies that only require removing audio tracks/extras etc to have no compression i use DVDShrink..

obviously the outcome is flawless.. and only flaws are from the source..

however if the movie is a bit long and compression is <80% (90% if i really like the movie) i use dvd2svcd/cce..

now i am fairly new at the dvd scene and im learning from trial and error.. dvd shrink is great for short movies.. but if its a long movie and requires a lot of compression quality does suffer..

some may argue this.. but i try to take views from both sides.. i test a movie done by shrink on a sony 36 inch picture tube using s-video and i have no complaints.. but then i test on the 56 inch DLP/component and u can tell the difference.. this is wen u see dvd2svcd/cce combo shine.. the re-encoding quality proves to be superior then trans-coding.. as i mentioned i too am just learning and i cannot get too technical.. but its very easy to tell based on ur television setup..

so please for the record.. wat program do u use and tv

i did a family guy epsidoe dvd.. full backup using shrink.. around 60~% compression.. looks ok.. but u could see some minor compression blocks? (rare times).. again i tested this on normal picture tube tv..
i wast hinkin of using dvd2one because some have said it produces better quality? or IC8?

is there anybody who is using dvd2one and/or IC8 who is viewing their stuff on a DLP or plasma.. i want to hear from u guys about which does better quality..

[holistic]

Anyone who can afford a 56 inch widescreen DLP via component ouput (progressive scan) setup could proberly afford a few extra DVD-R.
Span the video over 2 disks for optimal 'quality'.

....so please for the record.. wat program do u use and tv ....

DVDShrink & Sony 46" rear projector.

[warddc]

I am using a panasonic 60" plasma HDTV which is why the compression software just doesn't cut it with me. I run fairly good component video cables from my prog. scan dvd player. I have to span 2 dvds and keep the video intact. I just didn't like what I ended up with by using dvdshrink and deleteing/compressing video. I just wish that they would make dvds in 720p or 1080i format. maybe soon....

dave.

[PhreakPhish]

warddc - what is the percent that you were shrinking your movies with dvdshrink?

[mike_rach]

I only have a 47" projection HDTV, using component cables (progressive scan).
I agree that the compression is easy to spot. To answer PhreakPhish, my GF and I noticed 5% compression (DVDshrink). Anything like 15% becomes really obvious, even to the casual viewer. This was before the newer version of DVDshrink with deep analysis.

Eugenile, I think you'll like IC8. The compression quality is very good. 90% of the size looks very good, hard to discern from the original. Lately I have often been dumping the menus and extras if I can fit a movie on one disc using IC8 with no or little compression.

I'm starting to really like my movie only backups, I have the original anyhow, and I rarely watch extra features. On my backups I don't have to sit through warnings and previews and other crap.

[Perro Grande]

Wow! I'm obviously behind the times...

I test on three separate crappy TV's -- the biggest and "best" of which is a 12 year old Sony 27"

I *really* need to get a new TV... BUT...

I can see mpeg2 block crap on my existing TV -- from production DVD's and from digital cable. Getting a new one might end up being a disappointment. Still, for me, spanning to two DVD's is vastly preferrable than degrading the picture even more. I love it when I can get the movie down to 1 DVD just by eliminating stuff I don't watch or listen to anyway.

[andkiich]

I've got a Sony Wega "36, running S-Video In.

[PhreakPhish]

I only have a 47" projection HDTV, using component cables (progressive scan).
I agree that the compression is easy to spot. To answer PhreakPhish, my GF and I noticed 5% compression (DVDshrink). Anything like 15% becomes really obvious, even to the casual viewer. This was before the newer version of DVDshrink with deep analysis.

Eugenile, I think you'll like IC8. The compression quality is very good. 90% of the size looks very good, hard to discern from the original. Lately I have often been dumping the menus and extras if I can fit a movie on one disc using IC8 with no or little compression.

I'm starting to really like my movie only backups, I have the original anyhow, and I rarely watch extra features. On my backups I don't have to sit through warnings and previews and other crap.

You said this was before dvdshrink's deep analysis. So what is a 15% after the deep analysis look like? I’m really curious because I have a 45" Mitsubishi (about 8 years old) and I am thinking about getting the 45" HDTV from Mitsubishi - its only $2,500 - the quality is sooooo good - I can't tell the difference on my TV now after compressing about 35% with deep analysis -i dont want to wast my time now compressing at 15 - 25% and have my movies come out bad on my new TV

[DTSL06]

I use a Sony HDTV (1080i) , 53" 4x3 pic FS and 16x9 HD pic ~47" WS and shrink with many compression ratios (whatever fits 1 DVD/R) and it looks fine. Without a side by side comparo, most viewers can not tell if its the original or bkup. The Sony upscales 480i pics to 960i on normal s-video and leaves it in 480p in component input (WS). There is lost in quality but without a side to side comparo, the diff are not noticeable for most films.

[Bob W]

I view my DVD's on a 43 inch Samsung DLP HDTV at 720p from my Bravo D1 DVI enabled player. http://www.vinc.com/product.asp?id=31&PID=21

[ddlooping]

Hi all.

My initial tests were made on an EIZO 17" LCD monitor, at 1280 x 1024 resolution.

Nowadays I don't test my backups anymore, I simply watch them on a 4-year-old Hitachi 32" 50hz widescreen tv.
Seriously thinking of getting a 42" plasma though.

[mike_rach]

You said this was before dvdshrink's deep analysis. So what is a 15% after the deep analysis look like? I’m really curious because I have a 45" Mitsubishi (about 8 years old) and I am thinking about getting the 45" HDTV from Mitsubishi - its only $2,500 - the quality is sooooo good - I can't tell the difference on my TV now after compressing about 35% with deep analysis -i dont want to wast my time now compressing at 15 - 25% and have my movies come out bad on my new TV

Yer in luck PhreakPhish, I just got a movie that I need to use 15% compression to make it fit. I'll make a comparison for ya.

[Magua]

DVD Shrink
55" Panasonic HDTV

[shelbyGT]

only use dvdshrink, watch on a Toshiba 32" Flat Screen.

[sdlehman]

DVD Shrink

Mitsubishi 70" High Def with Pioneer Elite DV-47a Progressive Scan DVD Player

[mike_rach]

Sorry PhreakPhish, been having DVD Shrink probs. Every time I make a disc, the VIDEO_TS folders are an OK size, 4.3 GB, but my image turns out 4.5 or more. Never had this happen to me before...