SACD > DTS or DD5.1?

[tsantsa]

I have seen a couple of places with people that say there have been SACD to DTS sound conversions (for dvd player compatability)...

How is this done? Are there any guides? The reason I ask is because I just bought an SACD and didn't realize that you have to play it on an SACD player to play the SACD layer. SO I want to convert it so that I can play it with my dvd player and hear it like it's supposed to sound.

Are there different methods, can you rip the SACD layer with a pc?


Please help me out here since I can't return the disc now that its open and I want to hear it the way its supposed to be heard.

[Kurt S]

SACD's can't be ripped on a PC basicly because SACD discs need to be played a drive capable of reading SACD's proprietary format. CD-ROM drives and DVD drives in a PC aren't capable of this.

Do yourself a favor and go get a DVD player capable of playing SACD format. I got a Pioneer for $170 and then purchased Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road and Pink Floyd's DSOTM. It was well worth the price just to hear high res 5.1 audio on these two albums.

[rallynavvie]

Supposedly with the correct equipment you can record the AC3 stream from an SACD player via digital optical connection but that's about as close as you can get to "ripping". Remember the days of ripping regular audio CDs at 1x?

I may do this since I want the AC3 audio stream from DSOTM for my Dark Side of Oz DVD. How much does an SACD player run these days?

[Kurt S]

SACDs don't have an AC3 stream. Nor can you get the ouptut from the digital ouptut. The Output from a SACD comes from the 6 analog outputs on the player.

[powaking]

I'm afraid Kurt is right. My Onkyo allows recording via the optical output but only from a digital source. Seeing how SACD is setup using analog connections it is not possible (atleast not with my receiver).

[rallynavvie]

So an SACD player can't be connected to a receiver at all? That would severely limit those willing to puchase one since they'd have to switch speaker wires over to the SACD player from their surround receiver anytime they wanted to play an SACD. The standalone SACD players must have either an optical, coaxial, or other means of output to send to a receiver. Then if the receiver is taking a signal from the SACD player it must be encoded with one of the existing proprietary codecs (AC3, DTS, or one of their variants)

And if not... well it just makes it harder to record from. I could just record each channel seperately through my board and then remix my own 5.1 stream from it. It just seems silly that the player would have no other means of output other than direct speaker connections

[Kurt S]

Sorry, I guess i didn't explain this very well. The analog outputs I was reffering to are the line outputs from the player, not speaker connections. I would venture to say that most if not all surround cabable recievers these days have the 6 analog inputs along with the optical/electrical SP/DIF so you can use an SACD player.

True DVD audio (24bit 96/192kHz) also uses these 6 analog connections.