New DVD Backup

[zkramp]

I am trying to make a backup of a DVD (actually 2 different ones) that has been released within the past few weeks. I able to decrypt it, downsize and have an iso to fit on a dvdr. My problem is that it will not play. My DVD player recogizes it as Video, but it goes to a copyright protection screen and then teh screen goes blank and will not play or let me access the menu. Please help

[FulciLives]

I am trying to make a backup of a DVD (actually 2 different ones) that has been released within the past few weeks. I able to decrypt it, downsize and have an iso to fit on a dvdr. My problem is that it will not play. My DVD player recogizes it as Video, but it goes to a copyright protection screen and then teh screen goes blank and will not play or let me access the menu. Please help

1.) It is OK to say what titles as long as you state that you do own them and that the back up copy you are making is for yourself. It might be beneficial to give us the title or titles of the DVD discs you are trying to back up as someone else here might have already done it and might be able to give help. Occassionally there are "tricky" DVD discs in that they don't back up as easily as most.

2.) Need a lot more detail as to what you did to back it up and exactly what kind of error message you got.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[dcsos]

sounds like a REGION issue

instead of ripping to ISO..look at the VIDEO_TS structure on your hard drive before you burn, you should make a DVD on the hard drive that works befor you build the ISO

also if its a region problem
load each IFO file in IFOEdit one at a time, click on Regon Free button, re-save each file, this, If you get “This disc is not formatted to play in this region" message.

[FulciLives]

sounds like a REGION issue

instead of ripping to ISO..look at the VIDEO_TS structure on your hard drive before you burn, you should make a DVD on the hard drive that works befor you build the ISO

also if its a region problem
load each IFO file in IFOEdit one at a time, click on Regon Free button, re-save each file, this, If you get “This disc is not formatted to play in this region" message.

I thought DVD DECRYPTER removed REGION CODE and RCE when you use FILE MODE and/or ISO MODE.

In fact about a week or so ago I ripped and made a back-up of IDENTITY (the USA NTSC region 1 DVD release) and it had one of those RCE MAP things on it. I know because my DVD player was set to region 0 and it came up and I had to set it back to region 1 to be able to play the original DVD but the back-up plays fine with either region setting on the same DVD player.

I used DVD DECRYPTER in FILE MODE ALL FILES then IFOEdit to remove the FULLSCREEN version which made it just small enough to fit on a DVD-R (the original was a DVD9).

I never did anything with the REGION FREE thing in IFOEdit though.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[dcsos]

both our tools do the same thing..Check for advanced region encoding not removable in the original stripping engine
(RCE-Region Control ENHANCEMENT- a l ter development)

Ifo's version of the tool may be slightly more advanced --in that --it's a two step process..Like DECRYPTOR it modifys the IFO but IFOEDIT prompts you "the changes haven't been saved" and then, offers to overwite the BUP file as well.
DECRYPTOR may overwite the .bup as well but it doesn't verbosely report this

This would only matter years from now if the IFO failed to be readable, the player would check the .BUP..if its not overwritten, the DVD would go back to having a region problem!

[zkramp]

i was making a backup for my self of two movies i purchased. Those moves are 25th hour and 2 fast 2 furious. the decrypting with dvd decrytper, the downsizing to pdi with instant copy, the iso creation with ultra iso and the burn process with nero or instant copy seemed to be working fine. when i try to play it recognizes as dvd video, my dvd player asks about playing with parental controls (normal) then the movie goes to the "do not duplicate ...blablabla...punishable by law screen" and it goes no further. i am pretty sure it is not the process because i backed up another old movie, broken arrow, the same way, but without the need to downsize. i am confused.

[zkramp]

the more i mess around with this, i am thinking that it is instant copy 8, anyone else having this problem?

[andydd]

Sounds like you are making life difficult for yourself.

I just use dvd decrypter, then DVD2one to downsize and burn using nero.

Using IC and makeing PDI files just complicates matters, I could never get IC to work properally anyway and it was very slow.

Try using DVD2one or DVD shrink instead.

[rhegedus]

Sounds like you are making life difficult for yourself.

I just use dvd decrypter, then DVD2one to downsize and burn using nero.

Using IC and makeing PDI files just complicates matters, I could never get IC to work properally anyway and it was very slow.

Try using DVD2one or DVD shrink instead.

Agreed!

[lets]

anyone else having this problem?

I think the "problem" is in DVD player. I had something like this. I made a copy using dvdxcopy express. My Toshiba showed only first slide "this is a copy..." Fortunatly I have more dvd players. On Philips, JVC, Sony everything was OK.

[FulciLives]

anyone else having this problem?

I think the "problem" is in DVD player. I had something like this. I made a copy using dvdxcopy express. My Toshiba showed only first slide "this is a copy..." Fortunatly I have more dvd players. On Philips, JVC, Sony everything was OK.

I've heard many people make remarks that at least some of the OLDER models of TOSHIBA including newer VHS/DVD combo units were not being very "friendly" in playing back DVD-R discs.

Maybe the new current crop of Toshiba players have fixed this because I haven't eard too much about this Toshiba problem in a while now.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Dennis1968]

I had a similar problem backing up my X Files Season 1 Region 1 NTSC DVDs from 20th Century Fox. The strange thing was the DVD+R would play from the DVD-ROM drive but would hit a region block when tried to play from the hard drive. Solution was that RCE was mapped into the main VOB title set (VTS_02.ifo) and the Video_TS.ifo. was a first for me. Used IfoEdit to remove the region block and forced the Region 1 at "254". All was successfull.

[i am x]

i was making a backup for my self of two movies i purchased. Those moves are 25th hour and 2 fast 2 furious. the decrypting with dvd decrytper, the downsizing to pdi with instant copy, the iso creation with ultra iso and the burn process with nero or instant copy seemed to be working fine. when i try to play it recognizes as dvd video, my dvd player asks about playing with parental controls (normal) then the movie goes to the "do not duplicate ...blablabla...punishable by law screen" and it goes no further. i am pretty sure it is not the process because i backed up another old movie, broken arrow, the same way, but without the need to downsize. i am confused.

Well, I've backed up "2 Fast 2 Furious", and it worked fine. Used Shrink, then TMPEG DVD Author to burn. Worked fine. So I know that in the case of that movie, there's nothing special encoded on the disc (other than the usual coding) that would prevent you from being able to back it up.

[Grant_H]

I used DVDshrink just the other day to back up 2F2F and it workes perfect for me, I burned it with the latest version of nero 5.

[zkramp]

my dvd player is an xbox with a mod chip, does that matter?

[zkramp]

i just downsized with dvd2one and then i burned with nero using the dvd video option, but it says "Unknown" when I put it in the dvd player. any ideas?

[Dennis1968]

zkramp:

if you are getting this error on your Xbox then it can be anywhere from the Xbox not recognizing the make, model and manufature ID of the recordable to the way you told NERO the burn the VIDEO_TS folder.

different DVD players can have different results purely based the way the DVD was burned, some can handle the "DVD-Video" option while others have to burned using "UDF/ISO (UDF 1.02)". There is an option in NERO 6.0.0.9. "Force DVD-Video compatibility mode (required for Xbox TM)" under the UDF tab.

[zkramp]

i am going to get nero 6, but in the mean time, how do i force dvd video with nero 5?

[zkramp]

i figured it out from the tutorial

[zkramp]

ok, i am using nero 6.0019 and i cant find the force dvd video, where is it at. by teh way, i followed the directions for nero 5 completely to burn a dvd video and it didnt work. HELP

[FulciLives]

ok, i am using nero 6.0019 and i cant find the force dvd video, where is it at. by teh way, i followed the directions for nero 5 completely to burn a dvd video and it didnt work. HELP

They make this box that isn't called an XBOX but it is called a DVD player and many of the current models play DVD-R as well as DVD+R discs without too many (if any) issues.

Oh yeah these things are pretty cheap too now-a-days.

Use your XBOX for games and stop driving yourself nuts trying to use NERO which sucks ass for DVD burning anyways.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman