DVD+RW doesn't play on stand alone, why?

[911thor]

I burned a DVD+RW with the following program (Ulead DVD Movie Factory 2). It plays great on the DVD burner I burned it with, but not on the stand alone or my DVD-ROM (Pioneer 500M). The file structure on the DVD+RW disc are:

VIDEO_TS (video files ext's include *.vob, *.bup,*.ifo)
ULEADDMF (audio files ext's include *. mp3, *.dwz, *.ufo)
AUDIO_TS (nothing in this folder)

Is this the correct DVD file structure? And if, I burn it directly to a DVD-R or DVD+R will it be recognized by the stand alone? Is it the media that is not recognize on the stand alone and DVD-ROM? Or, is it the media that is not recognized? I do not want to waste anymore money by trail and error! Any help will be greatly appreciated

[Gazorgan]

ULEADDMF

Will confuse some players.

Just like not having the empty Audio_TS folder won't work on most players.

You DVDROM drive should read it. Does it not read it, or does it treat it like a blank disk? Does your DVD Player support +RW? Not all players do.

[Gees]

Well, you haven't wasted a thing since you were wise and tried a RW first.

Have you looked up your Player in the database on the left yet? People leave comments about what media works/doesn't work for them.

BTW - those MF files don't need to be on the disc for it to play, but also should not affect the play if they are stored outside of the video & audio folders. But you'd gain disc space by leaving them out.

[911thor]

OK, if the player is confused by the ULEADDMF folder can I get rid of it and put the audio somewhere else? How do I get it to play on my stand alone? Give me some advise on how to get it to work! What is a working DVD file structure? Thanks

[Specialist]

Which model of stand alone player are you using?

Not all players are created equal - as this site confirms.

Here's a good article about DVD compatibility:

http://www.dvdtoday.com/Recordable%20DVD%20Test.htm

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

[Gees]

You can see the working structure of a DVD in What IS DVD - top left there.

You've misinterpreted what I said - please re-read.

MF files don't need to be on the disc for it to play, but also should not affect the play if they are stored outside of the video & audio folders. But you'd gain disc space by leaving them out.

Nothing should be in the Audio_TS folder. That is only used for DVD Audio discs, completely different from DVD video.

I suspect the unnecessary MF folder has stored some original files you had imported into your project.

I'm surprised Specialist has not mentioned them in his reply.

Give me some advise on how to get it to work!

That's no way to ask for more help.

Do some investigating on your own. Look up your Player, Look up your Media in the databases here. People leave comments on what works best.

[Richard_G]

You don't say what standalone you are using. I have a Wharfedale M5 which plays every type of DVD-R disk I have thrown at it. It doesn't play any DVD-RW disks though. This is confirmed in the compatibility charts as normal.

[911thor]

My stand alone is a Thomson dth-4200. I only tried DVD+RW, but I need to know what is the correct DVD files structure so that I can correctly burn a DVD-R and DVD+R to see if they work. I'm not sure if it is the media or the player. My DVD-ROM (pioneer 500m) also did not play the DVD+RW, even with the firmware update 1.11 (created for the DVD+rw read problem). Again, Thank you all for the help I have done my reading and thanks to the responses I have learned quite a bit. My stand alone (Thomson DTH-4200) seems to be a strange one, because it has a variety of responses. In other words, some medias play on some players and not on others - Strange. Again, what is a normal standard file structure for the DVD format? Thanks for responses

[edsmith77]

911thor,
while everyone is well intentioned, sometimes technology will just grab you for no good reason.
my panasonic desktop player will play dvd+rw's just fine. yet when I give it a dvd+r disk it chokes and refuses to play. Putting the same information on dvd-r/rw my desktop player has no problems with them either.
it must be something unique (manufacturing difference) to the +rw disk that my panasonic just does not like.

When all else fails you have to ready to accept the fact that it might be that the desktop player will just not read +rw disks.

On a side note, i read in a different forum about bit setting, it seems that if your burner will support this mode, then maybe there might be another avenue to check out.

Ed

[Richard_G]

The correct file structure for a DVD is two Directories named (in Upper case)

VIDEO_TS which will contain the *.vob, *,bup and *.ifo files
AUDIO_TS which will be empty

The other directory you have is not required and can be deleted before burning. It might be this that is confusing your player.

Like I said in a previous post though, many players don't like RW disks. My own standalone won't play them, my pc has a Pioneer A05 burner which will and a generic 12x DVD ROM drive which does. However, my daughters machine has an Aopen 8x DVD ROM drive (front loading rebadged Panasonic) which won't.

If you can't read RW disks, try burning to DVDR, they're cheap enough to waste the odd one or two.

[911thor]

edsmith77,

On a side note, i read in a different forum about bit setting, it seems that if your burner will support this mode, then maybe there might be another avenue to check out.

This interests me, do you have the forum link?

And thanks Richard_G for the info on DVD file structure

[lordsmurf]

ULEADDMF

Will confuse some players. Just like not having the empty Audio_TS folder won't work on most players.You DVDROM drive should read it. Does it not read it, or does it treat it like a blank disk? Does your DVD Player support +RW? Not all players do.

Since most commercials DVD's are full of files and games and bonus material, I don't see how this would make a difference.

If anything, I'd say the player doesn't like DVD+RW discs. Or the bitsetting needs changing. Or the media is bad. Or the burn is not complaintly burned.

[911thor]

If anything, I'd say the player doesn't like DVD+RW discs. Or the bitsetting needs changing. Or the media is bad. Or the burn is not complaintly burned.

With that being written, what is a standard or correct bit setting that would work on most stand alones?

Thanks

[tompika]

With that being written, what is a standard or correct bit setting that would work on most stand alones?

Your Plextor708 is not capable of bitsetting.

If you have a friend with a Ricoh type or BenQ burner you could ask him/her
to change the booktype of your already burned +RW disc. Takes 3 second.
ROM booktype on good media should work in any player (my opinion).
After this has done you can write ISO images with DVD Decrypter
on your Plextor and the booktype will remain on the +RW

[911thor]

Stupid question, but for burning back up copies of my very expensive classic DVD's, what program would you suggest to use to create back ups?

Thanks

[SMHarman]

Its probably your player.

My Panasonic A360 will play -R and -RW though sometimes you have to press open/close a few times and rotate the disk in the tray to get it to read the -RWs. No luck with +RW.

I'll be using the +RWs I bought as backup media for the PC.

I've now got 1 -RW for testing, when I'm happy with the disc I will burn it onto -Rs.