Dumb DVDDecrypter ? from someone who should know better!!

[F-ING HOSTILE]

First off, a thousand apologies for the total "NEW-B" question

The following is the process I have been using to backup DVD's:

-If the DVD is single layer, I just use DVD Decrypter's ISO mode to make an exact copy.

-If the DVD is dual layer, I rip the "Main Movie Files", and re-encode the video to make it fit on the DVD-5. I use CCE, then DVD Maestro, and burn with Prassi Primo.

My question is: How do you copy a DVD when no re-encoding is necessary?

I have ripped the main files of several movies, and found that after the menus and extras were removed, the actual movie itself was small enough to fit on a single layer disc. I tried using the "IFO" mode and selecting just the streams I needed(Video and AC3), but then I get an IFO file , and several M2V and AC3 files, which don't seem to import into DVD Maestro correctly.

Do I just need VOB's and an IFO to put into a VIDEO_TS folder and burn? Then what about the BUP files commonly created by programs like DVD2ONE, or when compiling with DVD Maestro?

I'm sure this is a much simpler process than the whole re-encoding/ compiling route, but few guides seem to deal with this topic! I did a lot of reading on DVD Decrypter's website, as well as the DVD Decrypter Support Forum, but really couldn't find much info about ripping in IFO mode (at least any guides that didn't end with a DVD2ONE or DVD Shrink re-encode).

I'm already kicking myself for wasting everyone's time on such a simple thing, but any help would be greatly appreciated!

[FulciLives]

If you have DVD2ONE then here is something that will work.

RIP the DVD in FILE MODE and select ALL FILES.

Run it through DVD2ONE but select just the main movie and IF it is small enough to fit on a DVD-R disc then DVD2ONE will not compress or transcode it but it will produce a VIDEO_TS folder of files that will work.

Granted you get no menu but the chapters are still there as in the original and if you have multiple audio and/or subtitle tracks then you can switch them with your remote.

I think DVDFab does the same thing. If you pick just the MOVIE and again it ends up being less than the size of the DVD-R then again it will not compress or transcode the original but will give you a WORKING ready-to-burn VIDEO_TS folder of files.

At this point I use the classic version of ImgTool to create an ISO image file from the VIDEO_TS folder then burn to a DVD-R using DVD Decrypter.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[soundforbjt]

What's wrong with using DVDShrink in "ReAuthor" mode to strip out what you don't want and not compress the movie. It's easy and I've done it many times when I've found the movie will fit on one disc.

[FOO]

You have prassi , so you don't even have to deal with
ISO images.

I think DVD shrink is the easiest. jusrt make a VIDEO_TS
folder of what you want and burn it as data.

[F-ING HOSTILE]

Thanks for all the response.

These are all possibilities, but we may be making it even more complicated than it should be.

I only select "Main Movie Files", so I don't need DVD Shrink to cut out any menus or anything. I don't have any problem with using DVD Shrink, but don't really don't want to use any more programs than necessary. There has to be a simpler way to take your Audio/Video (when it is under 4.37GB), and make it back into a movie without the need for re-encoding programs such as DVD2ONE or DVD Shrink.

If DVD Decrypter would give me (1) M2V file and (1) AC3 file, I could import them into DVD Maestro, and compile a DVD just like I do after all my re-encoding. I'm just not sure how to get DVD Decrypter to give me that!

[FulciLives]

If DVD Decrypter would give me (1) M2V file and (1) AC3 file, I could import them into DVD Maestro, and compile a DVD just like I do after all my re-encoding. I'm just not sure how to get DVD Decrypter to give me that!

Well if this is REALLY what you want then yeah ... It is possbile to get DVD Decrypter to output a M2V and AC-3 file(s)
I did it once before but it was "tricky". The interface is not very friendly when trying to figure this out. But you can do it in STREAM MODE. Just play around with it a bit I'm sure you will figure it out. I did once a while ago for a project I was working on but I forget now how I did it hehehe

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[FOO]

There has to be a simpler way to take your Audio/Video (when it is under 4.37GB), and make it back into a movie without the need for re-encoding programs such as DVD2ONE or DVD Shrink.

Shrink does not re-encode (or do anything) when the video
is less than 4.3 G. It is extremely convenient because it
produces a valid VIDEO_TS folder in one step.
There is nothing easier. I don't understand your complaint.

[F-ING HOSTILE]

Well if this is REALLY what you want then yeah ... It is possbile to get DVD Decrypter to output a M2V and AC-3 file(s)
I did it once before but it was "tricky". The interface is not very friendly when trying to figure this out. But you can do it in STREAM MODE. Just play around with it a bit I'm sure you will figure it out. I did once a while ago for a project I was working on but I forget now how I did it hehehe

Thanks for getting my hopes up

Shrink does not re-encode (or do anything) when the video
is less than 4.3 G. It is extremely convenient because it
produces a valid VIDEO_TS folder in one step.
There is nothing easier. I don't understand your complaint.

To be real honest, I don't care much for DVD Shrink.
Don't get me wrong, it's a great little program (especially since it's free), but I don't entirely trust it.
If I had to choose, I would rather use DVD2ONE (even though it has a lot less features than Shrink), though I seldom use anything but CCE!

Anyway, I shouldn't need to use either.

[vtecwil]

You are going to have to use a program to replace the missing files needed to make a DVD work in a set top player . The ones suggested to you are fine choices .

[Vejita-sama]

IFOEdit can do this too (much faster and easier IMHO). Just rip the main movie, load the IFO file, click get VTS sectors, save the VIDEO_TS.IFO/VOB files, and burn.

[F-ING HOSTILE]

O.K. For all those still with us, I figured out the problem, only to run into another!!

I went into DVD Decrypter's settings, and under the "IFO MODE" tab, changed the "file splitting" setting from "1GB" to "none". I figured that since I was getting (4)m2v and (4)AC3 files, this would do the trick. The problem is that the movie I was ripping had both wide and full screen versions on the same side of the disc, and by default, Decrypter chose full. In order to get widescreen, I switched to file mode, selected the matching set of IFO and VOB files I presumed to be the widescreen movie, and right-clicked to perform stream processing. Now since I was technically still in "File Mode", I had to go back into settings and change "file splitting" from "by VOB ID" to "none". This worked exactly like I had hoped.

I NOW HAVE (1)M2V and (1)AC3 FILE

Now I don't need any other programs, and can skip right to DVD Maestro to compile the DVD, before writing the files back to disc!

Thanks for all the great replys, everyone!

[F-ING HOSTILE]

ALL IS WELL!!!!
The project compiled perfectly, and took very little time!

I found that you can also select "chapter Information-DVD Maestro" under "create additional files" (IFO MODE), and you have your Chapter list ready to import, without the need for other programs like "Chapter Xtractor" or "IFO Update"!

The more I play around with DVD Decrypter, the more excellent features I discover. I'll be sure to leave them another donation It's a small price to pay for such a great program!

THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE HELP GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[northcat_8]

Vejita-sama said:

IFOEdit can do this too (much faster and easier IMHO). Just rip the main movie, load the IFO file, click get VTS sectors, save the VIDEO_TS.IFO/VOB files, and burn.

That's the easiest way. Just rip the main movie files with Decrypter. Delete the IFO and BUP files after it's ripped. Run IFOedit, VTS sectors, Region Free it and save.

Now I burn from an img or ISO file usually so I also use IMGtools to create and image file then I burn with decrypter.

It doesn't get much simpler than this. Add about 3 minutes (if that long) to ever how long it takes you to rip and burn and that's how long this process will take you.

[ddlooping]

Hi all.

You got me very puzzled, as the method you describe as "simple" doesn't seem to be neither fast nor simple.
If you don't mind, could you explain me what in this method is either faster or simpler than dragging the movie title to the re-author window and clicking "Backup!" in DVD Shrink?
("No Compression" will leave the video stream untouched)

"Don't get me wrong, it's a great little program (especially since it's free), but I don't entirely trust it."

Why?

[F-ING HOSTILE]

What are you, the DVD Shrink Rep?
Just kidding!

[ddlooping]

Nah, I'm the DVD Shrimp rek. :P