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  1. Doesn't Ulead's lineup completely suck? Their programs can't even do custom menus like DVDLab and they cost more!
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  2. I tried ULEAD DVD Moviefactory 2 (trial, I believe) and I have to say that I didn't like it. Maybe it was just the trial, but I need a program where I customize just about every operation, and it wasn't able to do it.

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  3. Originally Posted by g_shocker182
    I tried ULEAD DVD Moviefactory 2 (trial, I believe) and I have to say that I didn't like it. Maybe it was just the trial, but I need a program where I customize just about every operation, and it wasn't able to do it.

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    Well their Cool 3 D isn't too bad. I used to like Media Studio Pro until I started using Premiere.
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    I cannot seem to capture, edit , convert, author, with anything as well as I have with Video Studio 6. I know version 7 is out, but if something works, why fix it?
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    Tommyknocker wrote:
    I cannot seem to capture, edit , convert, author, with anything as well as I have with Video Studio 6. I know version 7 is out, but if something works, why fix it?
    I think Ulead Video Studeo is great for beginners. I starterd video editing with version 6 (it came with my 1394 card) and made decent videos with it. I wanted to be more creative so I started using Media Studio Pro. I thought it was cool. It let me reverse video and the motion path was real nice.

    But now that I have learned and used Premiere, I'll never look back.
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    Premiere would be my Nirvana, so to speak, but Senior Leadership (read: wife) would never let me spend that kind of money on my hobby. I still can use AviSynth for slow motion, reverse, etc. though.
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  8. I've tried them all. Nothing beats Ulead VideoStudio 6/7 or DVD MovieFactory 2.
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    bpjenn wrote:
    I've tried them all. Nothing beats Ulead VideoStudio 6/7 or DVD MovieFactory 2.
    Wow! Now that you tried everything, you must really know your stuff.

    I've got a question for ya. How do you strech and skew multipal video clips and broadcast them on the walls of a hallway, so that they are playing when the camera view goes down that hallway, using Ulead Video Studio 6/7 (because as you said, "it's the best").

    Wait..................You cant!
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    I've got a question for ya. How do you strech and skew multipal video clips and broadcast them on the walls of a hallway, so that they are playing when the camera view goes down that hallway, using Ulead Video Studio 6/7 (because as you said, "it's the best").
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  11. Originally Posted by bpjenn
    I've tried them all. Nothing beats Ulead VideoStudio 6/7 or DVD MovieFactory 2.
    A lot of things beat MovieFactory 2, unless you're looking for an all-in-one solution with limited control/functionality and lets say not the greatest quality output. To name a couple of things that beat MovieFactory, TMPGEnc DVD Author and DVD-Lab, and, if you were early enough to get it, DVDMaestro.
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    I'm not voting for or against Ulead as the "best", but in response to racer-x (with respect)... this could be done using version 6.5 if you were creative enough. (I've never used any other versions so I can't vouch for them) It WOULD suck because you'd be trying to track the motion and placement by hand, but it CAN in fact be done.

    A simple 3 second "walk" down said hallway would probably take a week to complete with crappy results but it can be done. Is it the best program for this type of thing? Hardly. But saying that the program CAN'T do it isn't accurate.

    It could be done by customizing a moving path effect. In this regard, racer-x is correct, the program doesn't come with ability as a built in feature.

    Specifically, you'd use the "door effect" (under 2d advanced). You'd place the door effect at the correct angle you want and then you'd save that as a "static" effect. This could create an overlay which can be manually tracked and resized over the hallway footage frame by frame for best results, or you could give it a new moving path and let it run for REALLY shoddy results. Do this several times and you'd have your shot.

    Again... the results would suck compared to a Hollywood production but it CAN be done. Other software packages are probably greater but don't underestimate the Ulead program. It's affordable and you can customize the effects. Once you get good at this customization, there's almost nothing you can't do with it AND it's great for beginners.

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    Sorry... to answer the question in the FIRST post, you could create a menu using Video Studio the "hard way". Using overlays and such you could even create an MPG with multiple video clips running as a button for clicking to jump to that scene.

    Now making a menu out of this MPG isn't something I know how to do, but it could be done I'm almost sure.
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  14. NO.I have VS6 and I'm able to capture,encode,make simple menus and burn a perfect disk with audio in synch. that works on all DVD players.Granted VS is not as sophisticated as others but it suits my needs to transfer VHS/VCD to DVD.
    BTW..Show me where I can buy DVDLAB or TMPGEnc DVD Author on disk here in the US....wait a minute,you can't.
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    Hey Nitemare and all Ulead Video Studio lovers out there, I wasn't knocking Video Studio. I first learned video editing on Video Studio 6 and I think it's a great video editor for beginners.

    Yes I know that if you creative enough, you can acomplish just about anything with whatever software you have. Hey that was interesting effect using the barn door transition. It would definately take a lot of work to pull off.

    I was just making a srcastic reply to a mooronic post. There is no such thing as "the best video editor". Just reading that post tells me this guy doesn't have a clue.

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    Haven't you ever tried DVD Workshop? It's a great authoring program with very few limitations. Yes, it is more expensive and even DVDlab can do more, but it's pure ignorance on your part to say ULEAD products suck and can't do custom menus. Video Studio- yes it's a beginner's program.

    But MSPro 7 can do anything Premiere can do.

    What a ridiculous topic.
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    Originally Posted by {"Alenhard"
    What a ridiculous topic.
    You were on a roll until the haughty tone.
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  18. Originally Posted by alenhard
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    Haven't you ever tried DVD Workshop? It's a great authoring program with very few limitations. Yes, it is more expensive and even DVDlab can do more, but it's pure ignorance on your part to say ULEAD products suck and can't do custom menus. Video Studio- yes it's a beginner's program.

    But MSPro 7 can do anything Premiere can do.

    What a ridiculous topic.
    I have tried DVDWorkshop. By custom menus I meant resizeable buttons with JPEG source and such. Perhaps I have used an older version of the app that can't do this.
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    I've used several of Ulead's products. Specifically:

    Ulead DVD Moviefactory: The version I bought last summer wouldn't handle files over 4Gb. Of course, it was so well written that it would tell you clearly with a nice error message... NOT! Ulead Technical Support were less use than a chocolate fireguard (at least you can eat a chocolate fireguard) and I ended up diagnosing the problem myself. Now I consider this software to be well overpriced for what it does. They should junk this and put DVD Workshop at this price point. I don't use Moviefactory anymore.

    Ulead DVD Workshop: A bit slow and cumbersome, but it gets the job done. This is what I use when I just want to slap a video on a disk with simple menus with minimal effort. I don't use it to capture, edit or to encode MPEG. I just use it for it's authoring capabilities, but because it burns using the horrible ISO/UDF bridge, I now switch to Nero to write with UDF 1.02. For more serious projects, I author using DVD Maestro.

    Ulead Video Studio 6: I use this when I want to generate AVI files with fades, crossfades, wipes and other transitions. Basic, but competant and reasonably quick.

    Ulead 3d Cool Studio: I haven't tried using this for video work yet, but seems okay. I used this to generate my avatar. I also have an animated version of the avatar on my phone (nothing special, it just spins). Seems competant, but I haven't tried pushing it's limits yet.

    Generally, Ulead products are generally basic, but competant. I feel that they are overpriced. For serious work, look elsewhere.

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    Racer-x,

    Loved the reply. That link was hilarious! Seriously! (If you haven't followed the link from his post then do so... after reading his comment.)

    I like Ulead Video Studio but I'm not in love with it. But since I can't afford Premiere it has to suffice. Like IJM, I feel it's a competent piece of software and reasonably priced.

    I've played with Premiere at an associate's house. It was not what I'd call user friendly and he had no documentation readily available. I'm not judging the program because I basically couldn't do anything with it. I'm sure it's wonderful after an investment of time to learn it.

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