what is best svcd or xvcd at bitrate 1564?

[kimpan]

like the topic says, I want to convert a 120 min movie into 2 cds, what should I use, svcd or xvcd(mpeg1 or mpeg2). I have only created 1 svcd and it was quite choppy in the action scenes. But my xvcds are not choppy at all but the svcd is better qualaty when the picture isn't moving so much. So what are your experiences? what would u choose?

[KuskenLars]

SVCD...
XVCD is good at bitrates about 1800-200...
SVCD is good at 1650 (I think so at least)
SVCD gives sharper picture because of the higher res... also.
And set the Search... To Highest (If you're using TMPEG Enc)

[Colby]

Here's what I have been doing lately with good results.
mpeg1
720X480
bitrate 1634 (gets 118-120 min)
128 on audio
motion search to normal (about 15hr on PIII 933)

I frame serve with XMPEG at 720X480.

I suppose SVCD might look better but my DVD players only play XVCD at best.

[Jeomite]

You can try SVCD @ 1564kbit VBR (Variable BitRate)... perhaps 3-Pass if you have CCE, or TMPGEnc's 2-Pass.

[Truman]

There wont be any difference between SVCD and XVCD if you use same bitrates/ resolution!
@480x576 / 1564 kbps TMPG's MPEG sucks, even if you encode VBR 2pass. If you use TMPG @ that low bitrates chose a smaller resolution.
480x576 /1564 kbps MPEG-2 encoded with CCE VBR 3-4pass is quite good.

[valley_view_ca]

Can someone send me a good svcd template so I can encode using three 80 minute cd's. I would prefer 2 pass vbr.

My e-mail is: valley_view_ca@yahoo.com

[Truman]

A good template for what?

[Jeomite]

valley_view_ca,
Just load up the SVCD NTSC Template supplied with TMPGEnc. Then change the settings such as bitrate and such on your own. There is no 'good' template. Just 'the' templates. hehe

[Scumbag]

At 1564 I would use MPEGII at 352x576 res, 2-pass VBR with High quality motion search precision.

Oh - and I'd use 160kbps audio encoded with tooLAME, and with the highest quality source 44.1KHz source WAV file.

Don't know what bitrate audio you've used to calculate the required 1564 kbps video rate, so adjust accordingly.

If using a bitrate calculator with TMP, remember to multiply the suggested k rate by 1.024 to fully utilise the space available on your CDR.

jr

[Nitehawkzz]

I'm pretty new to all this, but wouldn't it make a difference as to which way you decide to go (XVCD or SVCD). depending on what the resolution of the source file was?
I.e If your source file was only 352*288 why would you choose SVCD? Therefore I would normally choose XVCD when the res of the source file is less than SVCD res. Is there any logic in my decision? Is there a better way to decide?

[kriskim]

@nitehawkzz

i think what they're all referring to and assuming is that this is a dvdrip.

[Nitehawkzz]

kriskim
Maybe, but are all DVD rips ripper at the same resolution?
Most of the ones I have seen haven't been. Some are widescreen and some aren't. The problem is there are too many variables.

[Nitehawkzz]

but are all DVD rips ripper at the same resolution?
Opps
should have been 'rips ripped' not 'rips ripper'
Tongue twister.

[Truman]

Nitehawkzz, DVD MPEG-2 resolution is 720x576 PAL or 720x480 NTSC. It does not matter which aspect ratio the movie have. If you have an anamorphic 16:9 encoded DVD, the resolution is 720x576/480 anyway.
If the source is 352x288, it isn't worth to enlarge the frame to 480x576 or even 720x576.