Multiple VCDs to DVD Help Required.

[tyders]

Hi all,

Ok, The aim of my post is to find out what you all recommend I try to use to convert 2 or three films that are currently on VCD to DVD.

Basically what I want is 1 dvd-r to contain 3 films with a menu so that I can choose which film to watch.

I know i have to merge the files etc so that i get 3 full films rather than 3 sets of 2 parters, like in vcds but have been trying some guides and they are not descriptive enough.

[Dennis1968]

The guides are very simple to follow once you begin the process. I felt th same way in the begin. The more you go though all the different versions of VCD, XCD, SVCD, XSVCD, DVD, CVD, DVD, etc, the easier the guides wil become.


1. did you convert your VCD movie audio from 224kps @ 44.1Khz to 48khz?

2. Once the audio is converted, you can use any DVD Author progam to create you disc. Use the Program's help guide. Just treat the VCD file as a regular MPEG file.

[tyders]

Hi Dennis1968,

We used VCDGear to make our dat files mpeg but got completly stuck when it came to using tmpgenc. The guide we used was very vague and as such we got sooo lost.

if you know a good walk through guide it would be appreciated if you could give me the link.

[Dennis1968]

TMPGEnc does not have a "Guide". little tricks here and there. But try this one to start.
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/141726.php#vcd
https://www.videohelp.com/vcddvdr.htm
http://ness888.users.btopenworld.com/fromvcd2dvd.htm

You can do it 3 ways in TMPGEnc.

1A. "File", "MPEG Tools", "De-multiplex". "Browse". "audio_stream 0x00". Save the MP2. then use a Audio Editor and change the sampling rate from 44.1khz to 48Khz. Save the converion as a WAV. OPen TMPGEnc."Load", "Extra FOlder", "unlock.mcf" for audio selct you converted wav file. "Settings" "Audio" "Sampling Frequency" select 48000. "OK". ""Output name" rename it to .MP2. "Start". Now you should have a 48khz MP2 audio file.

1B. "File", "MPEG Tools", "Multiplex", "Add", select your newly created audio MP2 file. "Add" select you VCD gear MPG file. now you should see under the information tab MPEG-1 Video 352x240 29.97, MPEG-1 Audio Layer-2 48000Hz, and MPEG-1 Audio Layer-2 44100Hz, higklight the Audio Layer-2 44100Hz and hit "Delete". you should only have a video and a audio lines.. "Output" Slect where and what you want to call you DVD compliant VCD video .MPG, hit "RUN". then import the DVD compliany file to your DVD creation software.

2A."File", "MPEG Tools", "De-multiplex". "Browse". select you DAT file from you VCD CD. YOu should see 3 lines, padding stream, video stream, and audio stream. "audio_stream 0x00". Save the MP2. OPen TMPGEnc."Load", "Extra FOlder", "unlock.mcf" for audio selct you ripped MP2 file. "Settings" "Audio" "Sampling Frequency" select 48000. "OK". ""Output name" rename it to .MP2. "Start". Now you should have a 48khz MP2 audio file.

2B. "File", "MPEG Tools", "Multiplex", "Add", select your newly created audio MP2 file. "Add" select you VCD gear MPG file. now you should see under the information tab MPEG-1 Video 352x240 29.97, MPEG-1 Audio Layer-2 48000Hz, and MPEG-1 Audio Layer-2 44100Hz, higklight the Audio Layer-2 44100Hz and hit "Delete". you should only have a video and a audio lines.. "Output" Slect where and what you want to call you DVD compliant VCD video .MPG, hit "RUN". then import the DVD compliany file to your DVD creation software.

3. "Video Source" "Browse" selct you DAT file from your VCD CD or your from ytour hard drive. You should see the same file is now listed in the Video and Audio Source. "Load", "Extra FOlder", "unlock.mcf", "Open" "Settings" "Audio" "Sampling Frequency" select 48000. "OK", "Output" Slect where and what you want to call you DVD compliant VCD video .MPG, hit "RUN". then import the DVD compliany file to your DVD creation software.

[y2flyy]

the method dennis is talking about is flawed imo
by just converting the audio of the vcd to dvd (48hz)
that is creating a dvd-vcd
which does not play in ALOT of dvd players i have coe to find
also on the dvd players that does play them
you have to watch the entire movie everytime you play b/c you can not fast forward or rewind
a better way imo is just to load the vcd up in tmpgenc and convert to dvd-video using the dvd template
now to get 2-3 vcds on one dvd you can just use constant bitrate of approx 2000k
now the quality is very good and it is dvd-video standard (if you use any resolution that is dvd-video)
i recommend if you are converting from vcd use the vcd standard res (352x280)
if you are converting from svcd use res (352x480)
again the final dvd looks better than the vcd source imo
and on svcd they look about the same
and since its dvd-video you should be able to play in all dvd players
including ps2 and xbox
y2flyy

[Dennis1968]

What does not work for you and your equipment is not universal.

My step by step process is typed from many guides alreay posted on here. I have use these method many times and gotten a max 8 hours of VCD material in DVD-Video with AC3 audio. I Author the DVD in DVDit PE. I can fastfoward, rewind, chapter points, all like a regular DVD. IN Region 1, the norm is 352x240 MPG-1, 352x480, 702x480, and 720x480 MPG-2. 352x280 is not a standard for NTSC or PAL.

Remember there are many players that lack expansion as your equipment clearly does. It does not matter what the manual says it will handle, all rest on what the chipset will handle. Many Sonys and Toshibas will not play SVCD. but will play 352x240 DVD-Video.

Garbage in is Garbage out, you can not get a 352x240 to look like a 720x480.When you play a VCD on a TV, it automatically changes the resolution to 720x480 to view. It still is a 352x240 file. Whem you encode from 352x240 to 720x480, you only acheive a file size that is already at that output resolution. that is all you changed on the video.

Let the user who asked the question decide what is best for his situation and equipment. Many conversion suggected on here do not apply to my eguipment. I do not slam others for suggesting it.

Bottom line: If it works GREAT, if not Move On to the next suggestion. Just Experiement with you equipment to see what does and does not work.

[y2flyy]

dennis actually i mistyped it i encode res in 352x240 (vcd standard) not 280 my bad
and i did not slam your method
and yes it does state this method in the guides
it also said that this is creating a dvd-vcd
go through the dvd player on the site
ALOT of them does not support dvd-vcd or dvd-svcd
now if your method is creating dvd-video thats a different story
but it clearly states in the guides that only converting the audio is again creating a dvd-vcd
maybe you need to educate in this matter give me your steps
and the "equipment" i have is an apex 1100w
"Garbage in is Garbage out, you can not get a 352x240 to look like a 720x480.When you play a VCD on a TV, it automatically changes the resolution to 720x480 to view. It still is a 352x240 file. Whem you encode from 352x240 to 720x480, you only acheive a file size that is already at that output resolution. that is all you changed on the video"
and again i never said that you can get 352x240 to look like a 720x480
you have to remember that we are converting from a vcd which is already at 352x240 and normally bitrate is 1100k
during the encoding to dvd i am encoding at the same res but increasing the bitrate to 2000k
which increases the quality so its better than the vcd source we are starting from
just like i stated
you also have to remember that we are looking to save space also so lowering the bitrate is a must
and clearly 352x240 @2000k bitrate looks better and less blocky than 720x480 @2000k bitrate
"Let the user who asked the question decide what is best for his situation and equipment. Many conversion suggected on here do not apply to my eguipment. I do not slam others for suggesting it."
i was not telling him not to use the method you posted i just gave another insight
i did not claim to be an expert in this
like i said if you can show me how thats making a dvd-video and not a dvd-vcd
ID GLADLY STAND CORRECTED
y2flyy