UPDATE OF PREVIOUS POST:
Hi Im back
Sorry i havnt replied to your previous posts i have had a short holiday.
Im sorry for u guys with the trial i know it has a big X in the middle of your mpeg. Remember it is only a trial
I am using the 6.5 version.
My comp specs are as follows:
1.2Ghz thunderbird
256mb Ram ( upgrading to 1 gig soon )
Geforce2 mx 32mb
A couple of stats I pulled off last nite
Movie Size: 252mb - Length: 1 Hour 08 mins
TMGP: Total Conversion Time 352*288: 1 Hour 2 Mins
Ulead: Total Conversion Time 352*288: 39 mins 20 Secs
Nice reading huh. I did this in vcd format.
Cool Huh
Widge
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The newest version !
You really do need a very fast comp to get the best out f it.
Forget it if you have a p300 its not worth it
Widge -
I made my first "good" VCD after wasting about 25 blank Cd's and trying out many different software. Buth freebie and paid-for. I have not tried the Ulead because the early version was pure crap in my opinion.
I used Premiere 6 w/ the pinnacle DV500+ to capture and make the final AVI. The AVI was converted to MPG in TMPGEnc and finally very little to un-noticeable blocking and pretty sharp.
Any comments comparing Premiere to the Ulead pro?
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MIDI music on my site also. Have a nice day. -
I have OFFICIALLY used every avi2vcd software on the market and by far Ulead tips the top.
I have been using Ulead for about 6 months now and i do admit the software could be better only in the user friendly area. It is not user friendly at all. But when you get used to the software u think how could u have ever lived without it.
U do need to set it up correctly with the right settings which are:
Vcd Format
352x288 ( as u all probably know by now )
Dual Sound ( not sure what the correct name for this is )
I think 244 bit sound
To get the best out of the software u MUST run a speed check ( i think thats what they call it ) on the avi file.
This checks how fast the software can go for that PARTICULER avi. And therefore increases the speed.
There is some information on this software on this site with all the correct settings.
I admit also the earlier are not as good as the latest version by far and it has come a far way since it's release.
You can also create snazzy animated intro's for your movies ( not like nero's inbuilt feature )
Hope this helps
Widge -
but $500 compared to TMPGEnc $0 ? and I dont believe anything until I have tested it....
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U must be tired every time there is a bad frame in a movie TMGP just falls flat on its feet. Then you have to use a frame fixer and that happends a LOT.
Get with the times and use Ulead -
My mistake
They musthave temp deleted the trial on there website but you can still get it @
ftp://ftp3.ulead.com/pub/Trial/MSP6.0/MSP60T_E.exe
Widge -
But ULEADs quality degrades when it comes to SVCDs. The block artefacts are much bigger than tmpgenc's and speed is not better. I'm using ULEAD Mediastudio for 4 months now, but only in the DV domain. After the cut is done, I switch to tmpgenc for final encoding to SVCD. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but Mediastudio's SVCDs with a bitrate beyound 1500 kb/s are crap.
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Widgit19812, finally you said which version you use. Look, I searched for v.6.5 (the newest), there is no trial yet.
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Let me Explain
I do not use the trial version.
This is just a trial for an older version ( but is still better than TMGP ) so you can try the software out.
There is not trial for the version i use
Hope u understand!
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Widgit19812,
Which version are you using v6.0 or v6.5? Sorry, I'm just a little confused, LoL. -
okay, I've just tried it and I gotta say... WOW! It's alot faster then CCE and TMPGEnc put together.
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Widgit why do you keep on putting down tmpegenc? What do you expect for free...I would rather use free stuff because thats right i'm broke!
So, maybe tmpegenc has a few problems but I think every software does (eg: You said the interface sucks on ulead and i'm sure there is other flaws). -
tryed it. very fast ok quality didnt get to tweek it to much but the trial puts a big red x in the final product
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U must b my are pic perfect ( of course depends on avi quality )
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My avi comes directly from a my DCR, which should be most perfect. The problem are the big blocks in SVCD after rendering at low Bitrate (I need 60 Min on 1 CD) -
Compound,
Just make a project file from TMPGEnc and load it into uLead, that way you'll get better quality and you'll have to get a patch to get rid of the big red X too. -
I have the full version of MediaStudio Pro. When I convert AVI files, what codec should I use!!??
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I wasexploring MediaStudio Pro, then I realized. FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT HAVE PROBLEMS CONVERTING MOV TO AVI OR MOV TO VCD, THEN THIS PROGRAM IS THE SOLLUTION!!!!!!!!
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I have to take back resp. modify my comments of Ulead SVCD quality.Yesterday I realised, that my installed DV Codec was a demo version from MAinCooncept. After removing this from my PC, I get perfect results with Ulead Mediastudio+ DVD-Plugin. I use VBR with 1400 kb/s and get 1h SVCD on one CD without visible artifacts and other defectives. The conversion is quite fast (8frames/s).
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So would everyone recommend this over TMPEng and CCE?
I havent' tried it yet... but am excited if this will be my solution to converting divx to svcd's...!!! -
guess i'll need the the p2 350mhz.
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BTW, Ulead simply uses the Ligos MPEG Encoder.
The older version of the Ligos MPEG Encoder plugin had terrible quality.
Presumable the newer one is better.
However, this question of quality has been discussed many times before and consensus has always reached that for VCD standard MPEG-1, TMPGEnc gives superior overall quality.
Regards.
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Michael Tam
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I believe now, that for SVCD the Ulead is qualitywise better then tmpgenc or CCE. Only drawback IMHO is the lack of speed, but you can do an overnight conversion
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My experience with Ulead MSP 6.0 and TMPGEnc tells that TMPGEnc quality is MUCH better. TMPGEnc is much slower though. Maybe, Ulead MSP 6.5 includes newer version of Ligos encoder which is better, but 6.0 cannot compete with TMPGEnc.
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