RIAA actully sues

[Reaper88]

They are actully going thur with it.


http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2003-07-18-riaa-suits_x.htm

[pacmania_2001]

Yes, what a great idea. Block up the court system with people who have 5 illegal songs for download.

Glad I'm not American.

[Greg12]

sueing your customer base is always a good way to boost sales.

this will hurt them more than file sharing did, i'm sure people are already moving to ES5 and File Topia.

I can't wait until they post their their earnings.

anyway, i think i will stop downloading mp3's. i dont' have enough money or time to go through a lawsuit and i could loose my job.

[Reaper88]

I have been thinking. How many of these people they are going to sue are kids that still live at home and are using accounts on ISP's that are in their parents name. The parents will get sued since thier name is on the account with the ISP. Man there are going to be some pissed of parents. Somone should keep watch and see if child abuse case's increase with the nubmer of subpeonas that go out. ( just jokeing, LOL )

[bugster]

This will only drive pirated music and movies even more underground. First to places like usenet and IRC, and once the RIAA start targetting these then new software will be developed that provides annonymity.

Hows this sound as an idea: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10452

[The village idiot]

This will only drive pirated music and movies even more underground. First to places like usenet and IRC...

First to Usenet? That implies it isn't there now. You know something I don't?

Time to find some garbage generators, and share up some garbage files! Let the suckers sift through the crap and prove who is really serving up songs...


and who is serving up garbage!

[snowmoon]

I have wanted to start a p2p honeypot to ensnag riaa people. It would be 100% computer generated files based on recent albums and size base don track length. It would be so easy to dummy up files that look like .mp3's all the need are some magic cookies and a id3 tag. Track people that connect directly and scan the file and then lock that IP out of my firewall.

[MOVIEGEEK]

"U.S. copyright laws allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but the RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants."

HA! Is that the recording industry strategy making up for a slump in sales?I can see it now...RIAA:"so kid how much you got?".As others have stated most(if not all) file-sharing is done by teenagers living at home or in a dorm and I would think parents of minors and colleges would be partially liable.

[The village idiot]

I guess you could record some audio and tag it. Cut it to the correct length, etc.

Maybe simple spoken text. Something like "DIE you blood sucking scum, DIE!" over and over again for the length you need. RAR it up inside a folder, then RAR the folder so that they have to download the entire file and not just the first couple of parts.

You would also want to share about 300 albums worth to look appetizing(sp?) to the clown police. Then when they contact your ISP, you can reply that they must prove the violation to the ISP. You get enough of these and they will stop the prosecution (persecution?). It worked for Usenet, should work here too. Just going to screw a bunch of newbies who don't know what is going on. But hey, who cares about them.

[bugster]

This will only drive pirated music and movies even more underground. First to places like usenet and IRC...

First to Usenet? That implies it isn't there now. You know something I don't?

Not really, as you obviously know, there is plenty of music, and videos, on usenet and IRC. What I meant was, if the RIAA does manage to kill off (or frighten people off) P2P networks for a while, there are plenty of other sources, they just require a little knowledge to find (and not that much knowledge either!). In the meantime I am sure some group will come up with a P2P tchnology that completley hides the file host.

Time to find some garbage generators, and share up some garbage files! Let the suckers sift through the crap and prove who is really serving up songs...

Good idea in many ways, the only problem being is how will the average P2P user tell the difference until he has downloaded one or more files from you and, worse still, put them in their own 'shared' folder for others to download. Before long the whole P2P network would be flooded with crap and useless to anybody.

Take a look at the link in my first post, with a little refinement thats something that could really screw up the RIAA's plans for world domination!

[Reaper88]

The RIAA says the p2p is the reason for droping sales numbers. I think that this will probaly piss off enough people that they will stop buying cd's just out of spite. So if the RIAA wins and p2p is gone, how will they explain slaes still being so low if not lower than before? Just a thought.

[Vejita-sama]

The RIAA (and MPAA) both need 'someone' to blame for dropping sales. Detroit could blame the Japanese and the music industry blames P2P. But in both cases the market and bad planning for the top is more to blame (although music swapping is illegal).

The real reason music sales are down is because CDs cost way to f&cking much. Much like comic books. They went from $0.50 to $4 and priced themselves out of the market. Then WB and Marvel blamed (S)NES for the decline

I'm not supporting using P2P for illegal activities but this will do nothing to improve sales, and given the cost necessary to prosue this cases could drive prices up even more.

[Reaper88]

its there an old saying:

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[snowmoon]

its there an old saying:

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Couldn't you also say that of the people who listen to the pop 40?

8)

[flaninacupboard]

something i would really like to see happen is a month long boycott by -everyone- who uses any P"P or downloads music/movies before they buy. if -every- person downloading stuff refrained from buying for a whole month in one go, on a global scale, these stupid companies would see it's the people who keep their business running that are doing the downloading. idiots. just wish i had the influence to organise the strike

[Reaper88]

its there an old saying:

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Couldn't you also say that of the people who listen to the pop 40?

8)

Ya, didnt think of it that way. I just really think them sueing is BS!

[musher70]

It'll just go on and on forever, and sooner or later
everyone in America, the Land Of The Free, will be
in prison, so who cares anyway....

Just a note though, Try to download a free media
player called "QCD", it lookes kinda techno-like...
Its has a cool plug-in that allows you to saves
the radio streams as mp3 files as you stream
PLS files like from Shoutcast...

[brian_reilly]

Time to find some garbage generators, and share up some garbage files! Let the suckers sift through the crap and prove who is really serving up songs...


and who is serving up garbage!

Wow, that would be tough. I mean, most of the songs people download are garbage anyways...

I think the RIAA madness will stop when the media hits home, and people start seeing kids being sued by a multi-billion dollar industry.[/quote]

[housepig]

I think the RIAA madness will stop when the media hits home, and people start seeing kids being sued by a multi-billion dollar industry.

it's already happened:

http://www.freep.com/money/tech/newman5_20030405.htm

$97 BILLION. That's $97,000,000,000. (Although I heard one of them ended up settling for $15,000 - still a sizable friggin' chunk IMHO)

This isn't going to stop until a) we make it stop or b) some Republican Congressmen's kids get nabbed (although I'm sure the RIAA will make some sweet settlement deals with them...)

start calling your elected representatives... just tell them where you stand on some of this shit, and that you are a concerned constituent and a registered voter, and that you will be paying attention to their actions on these issues. In a politicians' mind, one call or letter is equal to several thousands who don't call, but have the same opinion.

[elister]

If there were no such thing as MP3, I still wouldnt buy CDs. I had a nice tape collection before my tape players kept eating the cassettes, and given that CDs cost too much, I stopped buying music outright.

Lots of companies are having hard times, the american economy is still falling, yet they are happy to point the finger at pirates and sue them into complacement. Can you imagine the number of people who will go to PRISON over this? The courts will be flooded like never before.

[gmatov]

Well, in their mind, that's OK. Each new inmate reduces the unemployment rate by 1, and for each dozen or so you reduce it by 1 plus you add to the number employed by 1 prison guard.

More people imprisoned in the Good Ole USA than any other country in the world.

Good for the legal system, puts all those fresh minted lawyers to work, and if business falls off, just make jaywaliking punishable by jail time. We've already done it with dope users, who seem to be only hurting themselves.

The law has always been bought and paid for by business. In the 1800s the merchants of a town split the salary of the marshals hired to protect their interests, and if he was naive enough to also come to a peon's assistance, well and good, but he didn't then, nor, the Supremes have ruled numerous times, do the police have any obligation whatsoever to come to the ordinary citizens defese.

It will be one cold day in hell before you get all them kids to stop buying a CD, DVD, whatever. Mom and dad have lotsa money.

I do agree a month would probably be enough. Sales down, profits down, one management team hits the bricks. (With a Golden Parachute, of course.)

Looks like with DVDs, rentals have to stop for a while, also, as they are saying they are a bigger source of income than the original movie was.

[Becky9]

Go into a musicshop and hand them something like this.

[Gizmogajet]

This plan of them is obviously going to backfire on them. At the moment they are enlisting the aid of senators and congressmen to help in their fight against P2P. Soon they will start prosecuting every single person who has ever downloaded music from kazaa or another p2p app. Eventually they will end up arresting the son(s) and daughter(s) of those very same senators and congressmen for downloading music and then end up in some serious problems.