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    In the few months of experience I have had, I have found that I have much better success getting a DVD that I burn to play in a DVD player if I stay at the 1X speed. Now, I suspect I will hear that I need to be sure that I use a DVD that is certified for 2X, or 4X, and I bet that is my problem.

    That being said, is everyone having consistent success playing DVDs burnt at higher speeds on various DVD players? (Assuming you use certified 2x/4x DVDs)?
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  2. ewingr,

    I'm somewhat of a newbie here but I've had success burning at 2x on my Apple internal SuperDrive (Pioneer 103/Firmware1.90) using Certified Apple 2X, branded Maxell2x(Staples) and branded TDK2x (Target and Best Buy).

    The burned discs play fine on my 2 standalone players, Toshiba SD2800 and a Hitachi DV-PF2U. But that is the major point...on "My Players"....if you search these forums, most recommendations state that the best compatibility you will get is if you burn at 1x. So I don't know (yet) if my discs burned at 2x will play on my friend's Sony player or JVC or whatever player....

    Hope that helps

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  3. If you have a 1x burner and are trying to burn at 2x or 4x (which is what it sounds like) then yes that's a bad idea and you should expect problems.

    I've got a Pioneer DVR-A05 and burn everything at 4x to Princo 4x DVD-R discs no problems.
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    I've only burned about 7 or 8 movies in my Sony DRU500a drive on a mixture of Memorex 2.4x +R, 2.0x -R, TDK 2.4x +R, 2.0 -R, and Verbatim 1-4x rated +R discs. Each was burned at "maximum" rated speed of the media.

    They all play in the DVD rom drives in all my PCs and my laptop, my parent's PC and my brother's PC. As for home players, all I have to try them in is my Pioneer DV-440, and my brother's Samsung DVD player (not sure the model).

    In all that I have to test them, each plays back just fine.
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  5. I have burned 1x Optodiscs at 2x using hacked firmware on my Pioneer 104 and they play perfectly on my Toshiba standalone as well as PS2.

    I have also burned 2x certified discs at 2x and they work well also.
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    I don't see why compatibility would be different when burning at different speeds. If your burner can burn up to 4X, then go for it. You shouldn't have any compatibility problems just because you burn at a faster speed.
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    Yeah, well, I don't see why a DVD-r won't play on a lot of DVD players that it says it will play on, but often it won't, unless you use specific software, with specific settings, and specific brands of DVDs. Read for awhile in this forum, and you'll see lots of evidence of that.

    I'm seeing some comments around about burning at 2X on 1X DVDs, and how happy we are. But I saw a very good post explaining the concern with that. Don't remember where, or I'd point you to it. But to paraphrase what I read: The coatings used, and the heat of the burn of the laser, combines to determine what speed is supported. If it is designed for 1X, and you burn at 2X, the burn may not be accurate. It may appear good. May play on your PC, but not the DVD, or on 1 DVD but not another. So, for sure, I don't plan to burn at 2X just because it will. If the DVD is designed for 1X, that's what I intend to burn at.

    That being said, it does make sense to question it like this: "If it is a 2X rated DVD, and you burn at 2X, why would it not work?". I would expect it to, but some reading I have done says that your chances of it being read by more DVD players increase if you burn at 1X.

    I'm just looking to verify that if 2X (or 4X) certified, then should I consistently expect it to play on the DVD Player (assuming the DVD player supports the format of -r, +r or whatever). A further clarification of the question would be: If for example, I burn a 1X -R DVD and it works find on a given DVD player, then if I burn a 2X-r DVD (same brand) at 2X speed, should I be very comfortable it would play on that same DVD player?
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  8. Over 300 burns mostly at 4x and they all play fine on any DVD player.
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  9. The bottomline is, the current DVDR technology is nowhere as mature as CDR. Argue with me all you want, but we're still at the beginning of the technology S-curve.
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  10. I do get what you're saying and for that reason I don't use hacked firmware in an attempt to burn faster than either the media or the burner want to go.

    My media of choice, which plays out nicely in 4-5 set tops tested, is Ritek 4x. My sony burner, using RecordNow, recognizes it as 4x, but only burns at 2x. Those have played rock solid for me on a multitude of players.
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