Who here smokes?

[AND1]

Just a question. Do you smoke cigs? weed? anything else?

[Will Hay]

Nope, although my wife's ears do sometimes
Will Hay

[freak_in_cage_10k]

nope, im a gd little boy

no prizes for guessing what "weedvender" is into!!! lol

[ChrisX]

Nope, only beer.

[i_am_dave]

nope, I try to live a healthy lifestyle.
Eat right,
exercise 45 mins. a day,
limit alcohol to about a pint a day.
no unprotected sex with multiple partners.

Besides, who can afford to smoke with today's prices!

[freak_in_cage_10k]

gym 6 times a week, total 10 hours a week

eat good but cheap cos im a student, pasta, rice and fruit


strictly no alcohol, ever, i dont like it n e way

[pacmania_2001]

Don't smoke, not a huge alcohol drinker either.

[VCDHunter]

Don't smoke cigarettes anymore, occasional drinker.

Do love the weed tho

[Karate Media]

Went from 1-2 packs a day, plus 6-12 beers every night back in the day to maybe one pack and a single night out drinking a month nowadays(roughly one cigarette a day and maybe 6 drinks per month on average)

I am no longer the party animal I once was....

Although now I can afford to buy DVD burners and other fun stuff, so it's not all bad...

[sterno]

I don't smoke anything, unless you want to count the cheap incense I bought that produces as much smoke as scent.

I also limit my alcohol consumption. No more than two falling-down-drunk sessions in any 24 hour period. I never drank much when I was in school, but once I started working and had to deal with the other people in my industry all day long I started drinking pretty heavily. I never go out drinking, though, that's just a waste of money. I stay at home and quietly drink myself to sleep in privacy.

Work is the curse of the drinking class.

[WeedVender]

I sell, hence the name weedvender...
but I smoke it from time to time...

[Karate Media]

Now, deep down inside, I've got nothing against warez or weed, but isn't it strange that discussing warez is verboten in this forum, but telling everbody you sell weed is OK?

[Tommyknocker]

Being a weed seller is not against the law. It is the act itself of selling it.

[Karate Media]

Being a weed seller is not against the law. It is the act itself of selling it.

Huh? That babelfish acting up on ya?

Anyways, in the US it is illegal to sell marijuana -- in fact, possession with intent to sell carries harsher penalties than simple possession (or even downloading popular movies, at that!)

I'm not trying to get this thread closed, I'm just wonderin'...

[Tommyknocker]

Anyways, in the US it is illegal to sell marijuana -- in fact, possession with intent to sell carries harsher penalties than simple possession (or even downloading popular movies, at that!)

I'm not trying to get this thread closed, I'm just wonderin'...

Nope you do not understand. Possessing something with intending to selll it is an act. Which is why the police cannot arrest Weed Vendor if he has no dope on him and is not engaged in trying to sell anything illegal. They can actually lock him up, but they will have no case. So they will probably watch him until they catch him actually doing something. Hopefully I made my self a little more clear.

So even if you know the woman next door is a prostitute, the police cannot go into her house and throw her in jail because she was watching the evening news.

[Karate Media]

#1: I think you're putting too fine a point on it. If Weedvendor says he sells weed, he is most likely in possession of it, ergo, if the cops bust in on him and he has a bunch of bags of weed (as I assume a "weed vendor" would) he will get arrested. Someone advertising themselves as a seller of weed would want to keep some stock on hand, I assume.


#2: But, lets use your logic in regards to this site and warez: It is against the forum rules to "advocate" warez, because warez are illegal, regardless of the fact that you might not currently possess any warez, nor are you in the process of obtaining them. In fact, you may never have possessed warez in your life -- but you still can't talk about it here, because you are endangering the existence of this site by discussing illegal material.

So...even if you don't possess weed, but still come here and tell everyone you sell weed (and in turn, "advocate" the use of weed) how is this any different from coming here and advocating warez?


EDIT: BTW, if you went around telling everone that you engaged in an illegal activity, the police would have every right to obtain a warrant (the due cause being that you tell everyone that you engage in illegal activity -- no judge would turn that down). They'll then search your house and if they find the slightest evidence of illegal activity (a tiny stem or seed, perhaps), you better bet you're in for a long night of questioning -- at least in the US. If I went around calling myself "Heroin Seller" and telling everyone that "I Sell Heroin to Kids" all over the place, you'd better believe the cops would bust down my door with an extensive search warrant, regardless of the fact that I do not sell heroin.

[Tommyknocker]

Close, but no cigar.

If Weedvendor says he sells weed, he is most likely in possession of it, ergo, if the cops bust in on him and he has a bunch of bags of weed (as I assume a "weed vendor" would) he will get arrested. Someone advertising themselves as a seller of weed would want to keep some stock on hand, I assume.

If he is a weed seller, and the cops bust in on him, and he has already sold all he has, can he be arrested for selling or possessing weed?

And if you assume a fact that is not backed up by evidence, it does the legal system no good. Case in point: Since the majority assumes O.J. did it, why is still playing golf in Florida, rather than "ridin' the lightning" in California?

So, since this forum makes it against the rules to advocate warez, they act against anyone advocating its use, no matter how one does it.

So advocating the use of weed is not illegal, but advocating the use of warez on this site is not tolerated.

So wake up your babelfish and ask him what is the difference between a criminal and a criminal act, and which one lands you in the "joint"?

[pacmania_2001]

For a search warrant to be obtained by the police you need to do more than simply tell people you are doing it. By telling people you are doing it would arouse the police's interest but before they even approached a judge about obtaining a warrant they would do a background check first to establish that you have the 'means' to do such an activity.

I could go around saying (not that I would) that I shot JFK but then the cops would look into my background and see whether or not I possibly could have.

Secondly, your comment about weed and warez. We are discussing two totally different issues. This is a VCD/DVD help site so do you really think it would be on the watchlist of say the DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency)? The logical answer would be no, but this site would probably be on the watchlist of the MPAA or some other anti-piracy organisation.

Also, law enforcement agencies aren't as 'trigger happy' when it comes to taking people to court over such matters. Additionally the act of talking about weed isn't illegal until you actually carry out such an activity. Either is talking about warez for that matter however it is against the site rules.

[Tommyknocker]

The alley-oop is such a devastating play. Two points Karate Media, your ball out of bounds.

[Craig Tucker]

I could go around saying (not that I would) that I shot JFK but then the cops would look into my background and see whether or not I possibly could have.

I would say that as you are only 18 this is extremely unlikely, I may reconsider my position though if I found a delorean in your garage.

[Karate Media]

The alley-oop is such a devastating play. Two points Karate Media, your ball out of bounds.

Are you seven? When did this turn into a competition? My original question was simply, "Why can we not talk about some illegal activities, but we can talk about others?" Like I said, "I'm not trying to get this thread closed, I'm just asking..." I certainly don't think the DEA is scanning this board, necessarily.

And pacmania is plain wrong. If I went around telling everyone that I engaged in child pornography, the cops go to a judge and say, "We have dozens of credible witnesses who say that this individual claims to be a child pornographer. In fact, he tells so many people that he has even told a few police officers as well. We would like a warrant to search his house for evidence." That judge would probably say "Sure." At the very least, they're coming down to my workplace and hauling me off for questioning.

Is talking about a subject illegal? For the most part, no. But if you sell weed and then tell everyone you sell weed, someday, someone's gonna narc on you and the cops will have probable cause to get a warrant.

But you know what? You're taking this way too seriously. Keep the scores to yourself, jocko.

[Tommyknocker]

Are you seven?

What does that mean? So the authorities get a warrant. So the authorities believe there is illegal activities. So the authorities kick in doors haul you off for questionings. If they find no evidence, how much time will you spend in the pen for just saying you are a criminal? And trust me, I am not upset. If Weed Vendor wants to waste a perfectly good life, the decision is his and his alone. Sorry I upset you with the basketball analogy (although Pacmania did slam dunk your behind), I was only making a joke.

[Karate Media]

(although Pacmania did slam dunk your behind)

That's what I'm talking about. Is it possible to have an intelligent discussion without it falling apart into some kind of competition where someone gets their ass "slam-dunked"? I stand fully behind what I've already said, and I think there is little to dispute (and I bet that weedvendor has a stem or seed somehere that he'll overlook during even his most thorough cleaning, and if the cops find that, then...?)

[WeedVender]

heh, ive become a famous in 2 hours...

Although I have never, ever heard anything on the news of people dying from weed. You hear people dying in car accidents and things like that from doing weed but weed doesnt kill people..

[hoyboy]

dunno about famous, infamous maybe!

[Karate Media]

Nope, but you gotta love the PSA's: "Weed made my teenage daughter pregnant," "Weed made me do heroin," etc.

I especially love the convoluted logic of the ad that says that smoking pot supports Columbian drug cartel massacres...if pot wasn't illegal, then those cartels wouldn't be killing anybody, would they?

[Northstar]

"Weed made me do heroin,"

Weed could indeed and does lead to harder drugs all the time.

Im not saying everyone would do harder drugs cause some people are strong enough to say no, others will try it from peer presure.

Smoking a soft drug such as 'weed' will almost certainly (but not deffinately) lead you in different circles of friends which then leads to other friends who do 'harder drugs' which leads to "weed made me do heroin" in a long rounderbout way

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Oh yeah i do smoke ciggies and drink occassionaly... used to smoke weed years ago but havent bothered with it in years.

[pacmania_2001]

I would say that as you are only 18 this is extremely unlikely, I may reconsider my position though if I found a delorean in your garage.

Note to self - Hide the time machine.

And pacmania is plain wrong. If I went around telling everyone that I engaged in child pornography, the cops go to a judge and say, "We have dozens of credible witnesses who say that this individual claims to be a child pornographer. In fact, he tells so many people that he has even told a few police officers as well. We would like a warrant to search his house for evidence." That judge would probably say "Sure." At the very least, they're coming down to my workplace and hauling me off for questioning.

Before they decided to pursue a search warrant they would do a few things first to build up a case on you to present to a judge so that they were assured of getting a warrant.

Firstly they would interview people that you know. Find out whether or not in their dealings with you they thought you were the type of person who would engage in such an activity.

After that they would search their records, see if their has been any complaints about you in the past or if you have a record for such things as rape or sexual abuse.

The next step would also to check with the place you work. If you had internet access their they could check the computer logs and see what type of sites you are browsing. If they turned up something there then they may get a judge to issue a search warrant.

Also by this time you would probably have been fired from your job and your friends would have stopped hanging out with you.

Bragging about illegal activities isn't iron proof of wrong doing. They would establish a string of circumstantial evidence and a pattern of behaviour to show that you are in fact a child pornographer.

It also raises a legal issue, if you were taken to court and their case was built solely (which it wouldn't be) on bragging then your attorney/lawyer would argue that their testimony is heresay and would severely damage their case against you.

[pacmania_2001]

Before they obtained a search warrant they would also probably interview you first to see if you are capable of commiting the activity.

To use my above example, they would interview me (if it got that far which I seriously doubt) and see that I am only 18 and therefore incapable of shooting Kennedy and wouldn't worry about getting a warrant for my house to see if I had a sniper rifle laying around anywhere.

[subclubkid]

[quote="Karate Media"]Nope, but you gotta love the PSA's: "Weed made my teenage daughter pregnant," quote]

Oh man I love that comercial and never laughed so hard