folks, I am a dvd r burnning lover and I just bought a pioneer 105 bare drive from www.shop4tech.com for only
bare drive $169.99 free shipping and handling
combo drive $189.99 comes with sofeware and a free pioneer dvdr media
for you all who wanted to upgrade you drive for faster speed or who is about to get one, this place would be a good place to try so is their dvdr media all "free shipping"
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Not only does the pioneer 105 work in a Mac! The Pioneer 105 = Apple Superdrive! So idvd etc works just as it would if you spent the big bucks and bought it from Apple! They are being discounted heavily right now. The likely reason the Pioneer 106 (not out yet) will be DVD-R/RW & DVD+R/RW combo.
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Originally Posted by schwinn
Not true. Yes, apple has a Pioneer 105 model in the computer, but you will notice its an A05 most likely. My understanding is these are special for apple so they are deisgned to work with OSX for booting purposes.
Im not sure, since I dont have a 105, if you can boot off of that or not. But for those reading, just going out to an online store and buying a pioneer 105 doesnt mean its an APPLE SUPERDRIVE.
yes its a superdrive, and yet it works in your mac, but its not the "apple superdrive"
you can read more about this debate im sure elsewhere.
Likewise, iApps will only work when the drive is installed as MASTER in the terminal end of your optical ide ribbon.
if you have two drives, the superdrive must be at the terminal end and set to MASTER. Otherwise, iapps wont work -
Be careful saying "Pioneer 105 = Apple Superdirve!!!"
Not true. Yes, apple has a Pioneer 105 model in the computer, but you will notice its an A05 most likely. My understanding is these are special for apple so they are deisgned to work with OSX for booting purposes.
Im not sure, since I dont have a 105, if you can boot off of that or not. But for those reading, just going out to an online store and buying a pioneer 105 doesnt mean its an APPLE SUPERDRIVE.
yes its a superdrive, and yet it works in your mac, but its not the "apple superdrive"
you can read more about this debate im sure elsewhere.
Likewise, iApps will only work when the drive is installed as MASTER in the terminal end of your optical ide ribbon.
if you have two drives, the superdrive must be at the terminal end and set to MASTER. Otherwise, iapps wont work
Congrats if your trying to confuse People!
According to the fine folks at xlr8yourmac.com
The Pioneer DVR-105 and A05 are one and the same drives.
It is true that the ones sold as Apple superdrives use different firmware.
However that hasn't caused any reported issues using th Pioneer DVR-105/A05 in a MAC. In fact the Pioneer model may have advantages in terms of being easier to make region free etc. Also may be less picky about brands of disks used with it. I know of no disadvantage of using it in a MAC. Mine boots disks fine and all apps work.
The above talk about must be used as master for iAPPS to work also applies to the APPLE Super Drive. So what's the deal????? I also believe this issue was fixed with Mac OS 10.2.5 update and it is now possible to use 2 superdrives in a Mac.
AppleSystem Profiler shows it as a Pioneer DVD- 105 SuperDrive and lists it as fully supported!
later Schwinn -
Seems there is some discrepency on what the true answer is for this situation. Though I am inclined to agree that a DVR-105 is the same thing as an apple preinstalled superdrive that shows up in system profiler as DVR-105, I get my news from an APPLE HELPER (apple discussion forum) on the following between an Apple Superdrive (A05) and a Pioneer 105 (that works in a mac)
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A Pioneer AO5 is made Pioneer for Apple, and they have the ability to boot the computer from a system CD...not just any drive can do this. An AO5 comes from Pioneer with the ROM programmed specifically for the computer(s) that Apple intends for it to run in. Any specific timing, sense codes, etc. that Apple deems important are in that drive from the start.
A Pioneer 105 purchased from a place like esbuy.com or newegg.com will not have this pre programmed ROM. It will work however in a macintosh and serve the purpose as a superdrive (termed such that it can burn dvd's and cd's in one drive)
When installing in a system that can hold 2 drives (the MDD's for example) this drive must be placed in the top tray (end of the IDE cable) and set to master for it to be recognized by the iApps (iTunes for cd's, iDvd for dvd's etc)
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Just relaying the info I got from him. There is, i believe, much debate as to how true this statement is. If you read my post on DVDr Media Tests, you can see how people responded to my breaking up an apple superdrive a05 and the pioneer 105 drives. -
Originally Posted by LanEvo7
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Originally Posted by drewson99
Just wanted people to know I do not just post random or incorrect information. To be honest, I dont think anyone (other than S. Jobbs or an apple engineer) knows the true answer to this.
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i think you can boot from any cd/dvd drive. i cab boot from my aftermarket pioneer 105 as well as my external cd-rw drive.
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I have a Pioneer DVD-R 105 drive installed in a QuickSilver G4. Profiler says it is compatible. Yes I can burn at 1x2x4x but it is not bootable as far as I can tell. I have tried everything to try and boot from it. I can set it as a startup drive and than it will boot. If there is some otherway, I would like to know.
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Originally Posted by square
I have a toshiba sd-r5002 superdrive (pc and mac compatible) Got a hacked preference from an apple helper at http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/ and its now "Fully Supported" per the system profiler and iApps, yet I cant boot off it!
I was told by this apple helper that you cant boot a mac just off "any" drive, and thats why these "apple suerdrives" are unique in that they can boot a macintosh.
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/ is a great place to get things to enhance your mac experience, check it out -
Originally Posted by galactica
The owner of that site is really helpful! Great place to go for info on drives/installation ect ...
Bernie -
I can boot just fine from my Cendyne DVR105 installed inside my G4 Sawtooth (internal IDE). All iApps, Toast, and DVD2one work perfectly.
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Hello: does it works with an eMac? how do I install it?
Thanx in advance for your help
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