The Animatrix Copying Issues

[TypicalJeff]

All right. Here is my situation. My friend just bought the Animatrix DVD and, naturally, I snatched it up to copy.

I want to get the entire thing onto one DVD .. menus, extras and all. Now, I know that issues such as this are covered in the guides and what not, but I suppose I'm just not grasping it?

I would rip all the files off, right? But due to the Animatrix being a series of shorts, would I just treat it like an episodic DVD.. or ? -sigh- This is my first attempt at doing anything other than a movie.. so.

In need of help here.

[jarvis1781]

"My friend just bought the Animatrix DVD and, naturally, I snatched it up to copy."

so naturally you are a theif.

please don't annouce openly that you are involved in illegal activity. and yes, it is illegal to copy a disc that you do not own.

[TypicalJeff]

Jesus, thanks for the name-calling. I don't own the DVD, but I'm being allowed to copy it. Besides, I haven't done it yet.. now have I ? No. I haven't. I do own some various DVDs(I.E: Family Guy, Simpsons and Futurama discs) that I WOULD like to back up, but I am still quite unfamiliar with how to do so.

[jarvis1781]

you are welcome for the name-calling.

just keep in line with the forum rules.

yes, you should just ask about backing up those DVDs that you own.

that is a much better idea.

all the answers are over here

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[Bota2112]

LOL!!!!!

[tim_k]

You don't say what software you have. For that one, I'd rip with dvddecrypter, selecting all files. Then use Instant Copy to do the rest.

[orbital517]

Do you live in the usa jarvis?

[txpharoah]

Backed mine up with DVD2one about an hour ago. Now the kids can scratch it all they like, and the original sits safely on my shelf.

[sLiMpAuLy]

txpharoah, Did you get all the extra on your disc? I also backed up my copy but I was unable to get the extras on the disc just the 9 shorts with menu system intact. If you did have success doing a "full" copy please let me know

[vric]

txpharoah, Did you get all the extra on your disc? I also backed up my copy but I was unable to get the extras on the disc just the 9 shorts with menu system intact. If you did have success doing a "full" copy please let me know

I made it Full copy.. work fine menu and extra....

I tryed it with IC7 and DVD2one... DVD2one version was better and more clear (don't know why... it's the fist time DVD2one is better)

[txpharoah]

txpharoah, Did you get all the extra on your disc? I also backed up my copy but I was unable to get the extras on the disc just the 9 shorts with menu system intact. If you did have success doing a "full" copy please let me know

Yep. DVD2one. Full disk mode.

[mar-mar]

what version of dvd2one did you use to do it with

[jarvis1781]

newest version with full disc mode

[poopyhead]

you can also try dvdshrink (it's freeware, unlike the others, unless u hack them or get the registration key from online somewhere)

i've used v2.2, but i think v2.3 is out with improvements.

[andkiich]

You're not "aalowed" to copy the DVD unless you own it. I really like this forum, and I'd hate to see it get shut down because people are sharing information on how to illegally copy commercially sold DVDs.

[letgoofmyears]

You're still copying commercially sold DVDs, whether you own the original or not. As far as the MPAA, along with several countries by-laws, is concerned, it's the same thing. I personally am not a proponent of copying disks you don't own, because I also consider it theft, but give the guy a break. If you live in the United States, as a lot of us do,it isn't exactly kosher to back up your own property.

I read posts on here all the time where someone talks about converting avi files they download off Kazaa. If they truly owned the original, it would be far easier and faster to make a backup from the disk. Quality would be better too. I don't see anyone ripping those people, and to me what they're doing is equally as bad. So give the guy a break. It's okay to inform him of his "wrongness", which you should do, but don't rip him.

Oh yeah, DVD2one full disk does does a REALLY good job on this. Maybe because it's animated.

[in7ruder]

I totally agree. I would never openly ask help to copy a disc from a video rental store or even a friend. That is highly illegal. Anyone reading this, please keep that in mind.

If for whatever reason you need help, regardless of your "source" just simply explain you need help in backing up a disc you own.

No questions, no problems.

And to any new people reading these forums for the first time because they just bought a new dvd burner and are seeking answers. Go read as much as you can before asking questions here.

[Nolonemo]

You're not "aalowed" to copy the DVD unless you own it. I really like this forum, and I'd hate to see it get shut down because people are sharing information on how to illegally copy commercially sold DVDs.

Hate to burst your bubble, but if you live in the USA, you are breaking the law if you copy a commercial DVD whether you own it or not, because in order to copy it you have to break the encryption, which is an illegal act under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. ANY copying of an encrypted DVD is illegal in the U.S.

[ddlooping]

Is it legal in the UK?

If it is, why don't you all send me your DVDs and I'll make backups for you!?

[pakman]

Hate to burst your bubble, but if you live in the USA, you are breaking the law if you copy a commercial DVD whether you own it or not, because in order to copy it you have to break the encryption, which is an illegal act under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. ANY copying of an encrypted DVD is illegal in the U.S.

Nolonemo, you beat me to it...

[andkiich]

If copying encrypted DVD's is against the law, then i stand corrected. I must have misunderstood the laws.

just for my own knowledge, is there a place on line that has these laws?

Thanks

[mrbass]

You rent a dvd and backup it up to watch at a later date? Is it illegal? Of course it is. But at the same token you must not make a TIVO owner who copies a movie off HBO or ShowTime and watches it later any different. That is just as illegal too. Users of dvdlab were complaining that they couldn't properly author dvds made from tivo or replaytv video files. It's all the same thing in my eyes.

Once again I'll say that the MPAA should be more concerned about people "selling for profit" dvds on the street whether it be in China or USA. Those who profit off other's intellectual property is where the heat of the meat issue should be.

[adam]

The short of it is, In the US, the DMCA makes it illegal to reverse engineer software so there would be no way to backup an encrypted DVD without violating this law. However, a very strong argument could be made that Fair USE, either the actual copyright exception provision or the general doctrine, gives you the right to backup any software that you have legally purchased. So basically, its technically against the law to backup a DVD you own in the US, however if you were actually charged with violating this law, which would probably never happen, then you would most likely have a perfect legal defense, and after your trial the laws would have to be changed and it would then be perfectly legal to backup your own dvds from that point on. No such case has been tried yet so the laws have remained in conflict.

If these laws are going to change its probably going to be in litigation against commercial programs like Instant Copy, DVD2ONE etc...

As for openly discussing backing up our own DVDs on this forum, there is no question of legality. Fair Use explicity provides for other exceptions such as educational purposes, and unless any poster gives us reason to believe otherwise, there is no reason why anyone should assume that a poster's actions are illegal just because they probably are. Everyone is entitled to the benefit of the doubt.

In regards to openly discussing the encoding/authoring of files downloaded from the internet, it really has nothing to do with whether you own the license to that content or not. If you owned a DVD of T2 that does not grant you the right to download any version of T2 from the internet. The reason we allow the duscussing of downloaded files is simply because the internet is filled with public domain content. If someone says they downloaded T2 off Kaaza, then there is a problem. If someone says they downloaded a movie off Kaaza, then there is no problem.

To the original poster. Your post was in violation of the rules, but I think that point has already been made clear. Just don't do it again.

[andkiich]

adam,

Thank you for your summary of that information. I just found the full DMCA and Fair Use documents out on the copyright offices website.

I cam to the same conclusion that you stated only, I had to read through a couple of hundred pages of legaleeze!

For the most part, I guess we will see what the courts say about the 321/DVDXCOPY proceedings.

Again, thanks all for contributing to this thread and my continued education in all things DVD.