TMPGenc Plus - 16:9 to 4:3

[steptoe]

Any ideas how to persude TMPGenc Plus to convert from what I believe is 16:9 widescreen to 4:3 fullscreen using TMPGenc Plus ??

Tried all the settings, nothing, the result is always the same. A nicely converted AVI to MPEG2, but always widescreen, I want rid of those damn borders

Thanks

I have to say in TMPGenc Plus's favour, I'm starting to move towards this MPEG encoder more and more. Shame that I can't get hold of more plugins/filters to fiddle with



Using MC MPEG Encoder I can get rid of the borders, but this has quite a serious bug I mentioned in another post about 'frozen' frames. They have acknowledged this fact, and say they have found and cured it, and say it will be fixed in the next release, whenever that it ............

[Vejita-sama]

What's your source and what output format do you want (to evently author and burn).

There are a lot of ways to read your question. Are you asking how to take a 16:9 movie and make a full screen 4:3 x(S/C/V)CD? Or are you asking how to take a 16:9 movie and make a letterboxed 4:3 MPEG to perserve the source aspect ratio?

[workshop]

Any ideas how to persude TMPGenc Plus to convert from what I believe is 16:9 widescreen to 4:3 fullscreen using TMPGenc Plus ??

i clip frame at 75 top & botom and use black as border color
when converted plays full screen on 16.9 tv you may have to use a different setting than 75

[steptoe]

ah,

Its the usual AVI movie, and it doesn't matter what output format NTSC/PAL, but must be DVD standards, as I haven't a widescreen TV, I want it in 4:3, so I don't get those annoying borders

Basically, yes, the source is a 16:9 movie and I want to output it as a 4:3 fullscreen MPEG, ready to load into my author software (TMPGenc DVD Author), so I can burn in onto DVD, with no borders .... (4:3 letterbox ?)

Thanks




If I use MC Encoder it can convert virtually anything to 'full screen 4:3', but until they sort out the 'frozen frame' bug, then that encoder isn't being used at the moment

[Yirkin]

I think in the advanced settings for TMPEGEnc, you can choose No Margin (Keep Aspect Ratio) and it will convert the wide screen to full screen. You would loose a great deal of the picture so I wouldn't recommend it, but it sounds like that is what you are looking to do.

Howard

[FulciLives]

Hello

You need to use an AVISynth AVS script to resize the video from 16x9 to 4:3

Here is a sample script:

LoadPlugin("mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\DVDVolume\VIDEO_TS\movie.d2v")
LanczosResize(720,352)
AddBorders(0,64,0,64)

This script will convert a NTSC 16x9 DVD source to a NTSC 4:3 widescreen image.

If you need to convert a PAL 16x9 DVD source to a PAL 4:3 widescreen image then you would use the following script:

LoadPlugin("mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\DVDVolume\VIDEO_TS\movie.d2v")
LanczosResize(720,422)
AddBorders(0,77,0,77)

I usually use the FULL SCREEN (KEEP ASPECT RATIO 2) option in TMPGEnc when doing this. You could use FULL SCREEN (KEEP ASPECT RATIO) as well if you want.

Good Luck

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[FulciLives]

Well after re-reading the THREAD I see you are using an AVI source and as such an AVI source might have a resolution different than D1 resolutions, which is what my post was based on (720x480 for NTSC and 720x576 for PAL). So your resize method to get from 16x9 to 4:3 will be different if your original AVI file has a different resolution.

HOWEVER ... it sounds like you are maybe confusing 16x9 widescreen and normal widescreen. A 16x9 source is 'stretched' so that everyone looks too tall or too thin on a standard 4:3 display ... but everything looks normal on a 16x9 display. This is often used with the DVD format since a DVD player can properly convert the 16x9 source to a 4:3 widescreen image on-the-fly so it looks correct on a 4:3 TV.

A normal widescreen image is 4:3 to begin with so that the aspect ratio looks normal on a 4:3 TV (no stretching). Such sources have to be re-sized on a 16x9 TV. Some 16x9 televisions can do this while others can not. Some DVD players can do it for the 16x9 TV but I think that is even more rare than the TV doing it.

So is your source AVI really 16x9 widescreen or simply 4:3 widescreen?

Also, when you say you want to convert it ... do you mean convert the 16x9 to normal 4:3 widescreen or convert it to FULL SCREEN (as in NO BLACK what-so-ever).

Please note that when you convert ANY widescreen format to full screen (all image and NO BLACK borders) then you will be cutting of the sides of the image. Depending on the aspect ratio of the original movie this could be as much as a 40% reduction in the image (which means you are only seeing 60% of the image ... the middle part ... with the sides cut off).

This is why WIDESCREEN is so popular as it is the only way to see the ENTIRE original film/movie frame on a TV when the movie (nearly all) are in an aspect ratio WIDER THAN the TV. Full Screen gives you a BIGGER image but not the ENTIRE image.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Baldrick]

Yep, try No margin (keep aspect ratio) as Yirkin says under settings->advanced->video arrange method and set the Source aspect ratio to 1:1 and under settings->video->aspect ratio:4:3.

I have tried it on several ws sources and it ALWAYS cuts(cuts the borders) it to full screen. Fulcilives method also works but it should work with no margin.