2 DVD to 1 DVD!!!!!!

[keeskishore13]

Hai I have 2 DVD on HD with DvdBackup and than used Dvd2oneX to make the size off each dvd to 2.2gb .So to gether they will be 4.4 gb.
But can I burn these to movies on one DVD-r and how???

Thanks in advance

[galactica]

Not sure really, the problem is a typical dvd has only 1 VIDEO_TS folder, where yours would have two.

simply dragging the files from one into the other wont work, because you will note they have the same name!!!

i suspect the only way for you to accomplish this project is to do the following

rip each dvd to thier elemental streams
m2v and .ac3
you will then have 2 .m2v and 2 .ac3's

mux each together separately so that you have a mpg2 file for the 1st dvd and another mpeg2 file for the 2nd dvd.

then join these together, and run them through ffmpegx to make the video_ts folder such both are in one folder.

It can be done! but will most likely be ALOT more work that what you are planning to do I imagine

[patorojo]

I think easy way:
1.Rip elementary streams.
2.Make a dvd with DVDSPro
3.Open DTOX make a compression
4. Burn
5. Enjoy
I don't make this but i think is possible

apologize for my english

[the future]

It is well documented that DVD2oneX has a problem with DVD folders produced by authoring apps such as DVD Studio Pro or Sizzle. It will recognize some content as 'encrypted' allthough it is not. There does not seem to be a way around that at the moment, but the developers of DVD2oneX are indeed looking into that and will try to solve the problem in the next version.

[Ladd]

I am also interested in finding out if this can be done using basic Mac tools. Reading the previous entries in this discussion makes it sound like it can't be done (or can't be done easily) at this time, but I thought I might get confirmation.

I have a "flipper", an older DVD that has half the movie on Side A and the second half on Side B. I would like to know how to process this DVD so that all the contents on both sides can be burned onto a single DVD-R.

I can rip both sides into their own VIDEO_TS folders using DVD Backup, but DVD2oneX doesn't seem to have the ability to accept input from two folders.

There seem to be several utilities on the PC side that can do process the Side A rip and Side B rip into a single rip that can be processed, but I can't seem to find anything like this for the Mac.

Is there a utility for Mac that can perform this task? Or as previously noted, you just can't get there from here...

[schmeg]

One method for combining two flipper sides:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=154832

[AntnyMD]

Here is a shot in the dark, untried of course .. but it may be a way around the problem.

Create your DVD in DVD Studio Pro and purposely tell the software to encrypt your content with CSS.

Create a .toast image of this encrypted content. Mount the disc image.

Use DVDBackup to decrypt. Then use DVD2OneX to crunch.

[MichaelLAX]

One method for combining two flipper sides:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=154832

"The Man [with the ever-expanding ass and decreasing bladder volume] Who Would Be King"

... after you pass the age of 33 you will see the advantages of getting off the sofa to put on disk 2!

[schmeg]

"The Man [with the ever-expanding ass and decreasing bladder volume] Who Would Be King"

... after you pass the age of 33 you will see the advantages of getting off the sofa to put on disk 2!

I am a woman who is both past the age of 33 and very fit. This is a forum about ripping and burning DVDs, not about personal health regimens, and like many others I have tried to contribute by posting useful information to clarify and simplify various techniques. We all were new to this at one time, and I learned a lot from nice folks who answered my questions. This time keeskishore13 and ladd had questions and I thought I could help them find an answer.

This is the second time you've made a crack about my post regarding using DVD2OneX to combine titles. I'm not sure why you're bashing this, but I hope it's out of your system and you won't feel the need to do it a third time.

[MichaelLAX]

a good post, bears repeating...

"How many times do you plan to watch "The Man Who Would be King?"

"Now take that number and multiply it by your expected earnings for the remainder of your life and divide this result by your life expectancy. Now divide this result by the time it took to reprocess the movie onto one disk.

"Now, compare this number with the time it takes to get off the sofa and put in Disk 2..."

[geek rock]

a good post, bears repeating...

"How many times do you plan to watch "The Man Who Would be King?"

"Now take that number and multiply it by your expected earnings for the remainder of your life and divide this result by your life expectancy. Now divide this result by the time it took to reprocess the movie onto one disk.

"Now, compare this number with the time it takes to get off the sofa and put in Disk 2..."

that's not the issue though. why not look at most of the threads on this board and reply "why are you spending 30 hours converting a VHS tape to DVD, you can just watch the VHS tape anyway.." or "why bother backing up DVDs to SVCDs?" the reasons people encode stuff are their reasons alone.

the fact is, they asked a perfectly straightforward question, and they deserve to get a straightforward answer.

[MichaelLAX]

that's not the issue though. why not look at most of the threads on this board and reply "why are you spending 30 hours converting a VHS tape to DVD, you can just watch the VHS tape anyway.." or "why bother backing up DVDs to SVCDs?" the reasons people encode stuff are their reasons alone.

VHS continues to degenerate over time, whereas DVD will stay preserved at its present quality until the point in the future that there is no longer a means to replay them on a mass-market basis...

Backing up DVDs to SVCDs is the major medium of quality to those without DVD burners (which, incidentally, generally requires the viewer to get off the sofa and switch to SVCD disk 2)...

the fact is, they asked a perfectly straightforward question, and they deserve to get a straightforward answer.

My reply was about as straightforward as it gets! But since it was not directed to you, I can understand your confusion...

[galactica]

Call me crazy, but this may work, and be even easier! (this is just a theory, and has not been tested by myself)

Ever notice how the movie file portions of a VIDEO_TS folder are noted VTS_01_1.VOB and VTS_01_2.VOB and so on. They generally likewise have thier own VTS_01.0.IFO and VTS_01_1.BUP also.

What if you were to rip the first part, get all of the files into one VIDEO_TS folder called DISK 1
Repeat for the 2nd disk gettign all the files into a folder Called DISK 2

Rename the DISK 1 folder into DISK1&2.

Now, go into DISK 2 folder, and start renaming the files such that they pickup where the DISK1&2 files leave off.

If the last .vob is VTS_05_01.VOB, start renaming the files such that you have VTS_06.01.VOB...... VTS_06_0.IFO and VTS_06.BUP and so on.

Then just drag them into the DISK1&2 folder so they are all in one folder.

who knows, maybe it will work. Try it and open Apple DVD player and select your DISK1&2 folder and see what happens!

who knows, maybe it will work!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ladd]

a good post, bears repeating...

You opinion has been clearly stated and the logic supporting it is appreciated.

Now, if you would please be so kind as to graciously step aside and let those of us who ARE interested in solving this technical problem, however trivial, play in the sandbox undisturbed.

Thanks.

[galactica]

You could always get one of the 9.4 GB dvd-r disks. They have 4.4 gb dvd-r on both sides, thus one movie on one side, the other on the other side.

But, you still have to flip the disc, so it would be nice to get both onto one disk.

Monsters inc is set like what you are looking for, it has both widescreen and standard screen movie files on one dvd. You choose play and it asks you which format, standard or wide. Standard starts at chapter 1 wide somewhere around chapter 19.

ill look at the structure and see how its doing that!

maybe we can trick a video_Ts into somethign like this!

[BernieR]

The patience of the cool people on this forum is amazing!!!

thanks!!!!!!! It makes it fun to read.

Bernie

[galactica]

Which are the "cool" 8) people?

[BernieR]

The ones that are out of this world!!!!




Bernie

[Pretzel]

Apparently PC Users have been successful at doing this mainly by editing
the VIDEO_TS.IFO file to recognise the second movie with the PC app IFOedit

see http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=2dc2c84fb29310abe22dfe0543147b9c&threadid=67...5&pagenumber=2

But some Mac users claim that it is easily done with DVD STUDIO PRO

If anyone can advise of Mac equivalent Apps or how it can be done with DVDSP it would be appreciated

[schmeg]

As posted above, it isn't terribly complicated to combine multiple titles together on one DVD using DVD Studio Pro or Sizzle. DVDSP allows you to create menus; Sizzle will just cue them up and run them as multiple chapters.

Both programs accept "elementary streams," by which we mean .m2v (video) and .ac3 (audio) files ripped from source DVDs.

The easiest way is to use OSeX to directly rip m2v/ac3 files from DVDs by using the "ES" elementary stream option, and then load these files into DVDSP or Sizzle.

But if you want to combine titles whose total size is too big to fit on one disk, you can use DVD2OneX to compress the titles first. Using the "Movie Only" and a user-defined output file size, you can compress each title to whatever percentage of the final disk size you require.

Using Extractor v0.95, you can then rip the m2v/ac3 elementary streams out of these compressed files, and then load them into DVDSP or Sizzle.

[Ladd]

But if you want to combine titles whose total size is too big to fit on one disk, you can use DVD2OneX to compress the titles first. Using the "Movie Only" and a user-defined output file size, you can compress each title to whatever percentage of the final disk size you require.

Using Extractor v0.95, you can then rip the m2v/ac3 elementary streams out of these compressed files, and then load them into DVDSP or Sizzle.

Yup, that procedure works well, although it took me a few tries to figure out the Extractor and Sizzle setups.

You may recall that I've been working on backing up the disc "Amadeus" which is a flipper: Side A is 2/3 of the movie and Side B is the last 1/3.

I ripped both sides of the disk into their respective Side A and Side B folders using DVD Backup (6.72GB total).

I processed both of those outputs using DVD2oneX with "Movie Only" settings that created A+B output sizes totaling 4472MB (A=2981MB, B=1491MB).

I pulled out the m2v/ac3 streams using Extractor, with the "create one file" box checked (output = 4.04GB).

I processed that ouput with Sizzle and ended up with a disk image containing a 4.14GB VIDEO_TS folder which plays fine in the Apple DVD Player. I have yet to burn this to disc via Toast, but don't anticipate any problems.

Thanks for you help; it was a challenge and I couldn't have done it without your guidance.

Question:

Is there any way to modify this procedure so that I can end up with a "whole disk" version where everything on Side A and SideB ends up on one DVD-R disc? Menus, music-only track, etc. and etc.?

[Megahurts]

The method I use is with DVD2one and DVDtoolbox on a PC.

1 Transcode each movie with DVD2one in seperate folders (2.15 gigs each).
2 Delete all the VIDEO_TS files and rename the files in the 2nd folder to VTS_02_x.xxx.
3 Move those files to the first folder and run DVDtoolbox.
4 Set source = first folder.
5 Click Create Video Manager (VIDEO_TS.IFO).

That's it... you have 2 movies which can have multiple audio tracks and subtitles and original chapters will be intact. Also the screen formats can be different. Of course, no menu but can choose the title with the remote.

After moving the files in step 3, copy the ifo files to a floppy (do MACs still use floppys?) along with DVDtoolbox and take to friends PC and create the VIDEO_TS.IFO. You will get an error message because the vobs are missing but it will still create a valid ifo file.

Hope this is usefull.

Chas

[galactica]

The method I use is with DVD2one and DVDtoolbox on a PC.

1 Transcode each movie with DVD2one in seperate folders (2.15 gigs each).
2 Delete all the VIDEO_TS files and rename the files in the 2nd folder to VTS_02_x.xxx.
3 Move those files to the first folder and run DVDtoolbox.
4 Set source = first folder.
5 Click Create Video Manager (VIDEO_TS.IFO).

That's it... you have 2 movies which can have multiple audio tracks and subtitles and original chapters will be intact. Also the screen formats can be different. Of course, no menu but can choose the title with the remote.

After moving the files in step 3, copy the ifo files to a floppy (do MACs still use floppys?) along with DVDtoolbox and take to friends PC and create the VIDEO_TS.IFO. You will get an error message because the vobs are missing but it will still create a valid ifo file.

Hope this is usefull.

Chas

your talking movie only copies right?!?!

also theres an easier way that keep you on a mac

open your terminal
delte all the VIDEO_TS folders

download IFOGEN and TOCGEN off my website

drag tocgen to the terminal, drag your VIDEO_TS foler thats missing all the VIDEO_TS files to it, click return

done, now you have the new video_ts files. hope this helps you STAY ON A MAC!!!!!

enjoy

[Megahurts]

galactica

Yes to movies only with DVD2one.

You said "open your terminal delete all the VIDEO_TS folders". Did you mean delete VIDEO_TS files?

Not familar with IFOGEN and TOCGEN, but if it supports multiple title sets, multiple audio and subtitle streams, retain chapters and screen formats then it sounds like it does the job.

BTW: I bought a MAC in 1984 and several up until 1993 and switched to PC for other reasons. Still think it's a great machine.

Regards,

Chas

[vance43211]

the easiest way to make 2dvd to 1 if they are movie only is ifo edit .

rename the the second movie vob to correspond with the first, move all the vob files to one folder, open ifo edit and selct create ifos

when done click get vts sector and click yes to all question

burn away

i going to try a trick with ifoedit to see if i can do 2 movie with menus

i'll let u know

p.s. u could also use neodvd plus, if it work on a mac, and u could make your own menu

[schmeg]

Is there any way to modify this procedure so that I can end up with a "whole disk" version where everything on Side A and SideB ends up on one DVD-R disc? Menus, music-only track, etc. and etc.?

Not easily.

Menus are the biggest problem, as their files aren't easily ripped out and we don't have a way to duplicate the scripts ("play this when you hit this button") without doing it from scratch.

Both DVDSP and Sizzle support multiple audio tracks, so you can certainly retain commentaries, music-only tracks, etc.

It's also possible to rip any extras and add them, just as you did the second half of the movie.

And of course, DVDSP does support menus -- you need to create them yourself. It's not difficult, though it is vastly more time-consuming than doing a simply full-disk compression with DTOX.

[galactica]

the easiest way to make 2dvd to 1 if they are movie only is ifo edit .

rename the the second movie vob to correspond with the first, move all the vob files to one folder, open ifo edit and selct create ifos

when done click get vts sector and click yes to all question

burn away

i going to try a trick with ifoedit to see if i can do 2 movie with menus

i'll let u know

p.s. u could also use neodvd plus, if it work on a mac, and u could make your own menu

So i tried to do this ifo edit, but using my tocgen and ifogen files i use to create the VIDEO_TS files when doing SVCD to dvd.

the question I have is this

1. pearl harbor is 2 disks
2. i backup each disk run both through dtox and get equal movie only folders in size (2.2 gigs and 2.2.gigs)
i go into both disk 1 and disk 2 movie only copy folder, erate all the VIDEO_TS named files, so all i have now its the VTS named files.
3. now i go into disk 2 movie only folder, and rename the VTS files so they begin like this VTS_02_x.vob then i transfer the .vob's that were renamed to my disk one folder. Also, i renamed the VTS.ifo and VTS.bup files and copied them over, since there are VTS.ifo /.bup files for the VTS_01_x.vob files.

now, i easily create new VIDEO_TS .ifo and .bup files using the tocgen file.
Great, everything looks like I would expect.

except, once it gets to teh end of the disk 1 .vob files, it just stops, doenst contiune playing the 02.vob files

is this because i just copied the VTS_02.ifo/.bup files into disk 1.
if so, there has got to be an easy way to make these VTS.ifo/.bup files and not have to transfer back and forth between mac and virtual pc!

(by the way, where can i get this ifo edit pc file?!?!?!)

I think im 99% of the way for a mac only 2 disk to 1 disk method here, just need to get the 2nd part to be recognized

apple dvd player see's is as a valid video_ts folder and it progresses much like it woudl if it were just 1 disk, it jsut doesnt continue into the disk 2 part that i drag into teh folder.

[vance43211]

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=545274&highlight=#545274

if u copy just the vobs to the hard drive of both discs, rename the the second disc vob to correspond with the end of the first (i.e. if 1st disc has 4 vobs and the second disc has 4, rename the VTS_01_1, VTS_01_2, VTS_01_3, VTS_01_4 vobs of the second disc to VTS_01_5, VTS_01_6,VTS_01_7, VTS_01_8, etc.)

then u use ifoedit to create new ifo and bup files

Optional, click get vts_sectors and answer yes to all questions

then u can use instant copy or dvd shrink to shrink it to one disc

galactica

in your case you are ready to burn

[Pretzel]

Question to schmeg:

If I have two separate Movies ( both under 2.2Gb and demuxed ready for import) is it possible using Sizzle to create a single Menu to select between the individual Movies, or does this only create a continuous format of the combined total?

EDIT: There is no menu creation option in Sizzle only chapter markers

Am now trudging thru the DVDSP manual - quick question: If I want the DVD to start up on the Menu not either of the Movies - what should I set the "Set Startup Action" to?

[thoughton]

a good post, bears repeating...

You opinion has been clearly stated and the logic supporting it is appreciated.

Now, if you would please be so kind as to graciously step aside and let those of us who ARE interested in solving this technical problem, however trivial, play in the sandbox undisturbed.

Thanks.

I've been a silent reader of this site for quite a while now, but after reading MichaelLAX's words of wisdom I'm going to start posting just so I can quote my own posts and then congratulate myself on how 'good' they were :P