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  1. Member dcsos's Avatar
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    I cannot for the life of me locate a product that will allow me to connect my hard drive to the MAC at firewire 2.0

    I can't find anywhere to buy a router to connect more than 2 machines at the gigabit speed for less than $8,000(US)

    I can't find a FIREWIRE 2.0 add-in card for PC either..
    What happened to technology's foward march*

    *no pun intended as FIREWIRE 2.0 was announced in MARCH 2003

    THES NEW INTERFACES in the MAC MOTHERBOARD remain useless till someone clues me in!
    And there are PC's with GIGBIT ethernet out now too!
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    Hey thanks you got me everything about FIRWIRE 2.0
    now does anyone know about GIGABIT ETHERNET HUBS OR ROUTERS?
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    Gigabit over copper is still not widespread. Trendware makes some relatively cheap switches (~$150 for a 4-port). You can see their catalog at http://www.trendware.com/products/f_gigabit-switches.htm. If you buy a cheap switch, remember one thing: you usually get what you pay for.

    Very few desktop machines are able to supply enough data to the network card to even come close to reaching 1000Mbit. Just use a 100Mbit switch and be happy, those used to cost a lot of money.
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    how about just using a crossover cable ?

    you said you are only connecting two machines ..

    or use the firewire 2 as a network cable also ..
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    Fry's Electronics (aka outpost.com) usually has those items.
    I'm not online anymore. Ask BALDRICK, LORDSMURF or SATSTORM for help. PM's are ignored.
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    Very few desktop machines are able to supply enough data to the network card to even come close to reaching 1000Mbit.
    (without firbe )
    My 6 machines (not my home system) are hooked up at 100 to each other..Now with a new g4
    with motherboard gigaethernet, and a new p4 on the way also has ethernet on motherboard (gigabit) how do we integrate?. can't we just connect the two to one fast router (talk fast between) and then uplink them the the other 6 slow machines (100)
    and as you've now explained..this configuration really can't offer me any benefit
    because the new machines can't use these ports any faster..thanks!
    (or could I somehow bypass or adapt the copper out to fibre or optical?)
    BTW TXPHAROAH..we in NYC have "FRY's ENVY" as all we get over here is CrampUSA and BustBuy
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  8. this is from nextag.com

    http://www.nextag.com/serv/main/buyer/outpdir.jsp?search=giga%20ethernet&doSearch=y

    it is online prices from online stores, they are well below the 8,000us price you posted. hope this helped,

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    Originally Posted by dcsos
    My 6 machines (not my home system) are hooked up at 100 to each other..Now with a new g4
    with motherboard gigaethernet, and a new p4 on the way also has ethernet on motherboard (gigabit) how do we integrate?. can't we just connect the two to one fast router (talk fast between) and then uplink them the the other 6 slow machines (100)
    Option 1: Buy an 8-port gigabit-over-copper switch and plug all your machines in to it. The 100Mbit cards will run at 100, the 1000Mbit cards will run at 1000 (or as close as they can get, anyway). The gigabit cards will talk to each other at 1000Mbit and all other connections will be at 100Mbit.

    Option 2: Plug your two 1000Mbit interfaces in to your existing 100Mbit switch. Everything will run at 100Mbit. This is probably your simplest, most sensible option.

    Option 3: Buy a smaller (ie 4 port) gigabit switch and use an uplink port to connect it to your existing switch. The two gigabit cards will talk to each other at 1000Mbit, but all communication between the 1000Mbit machines and the 100Mbit machines will be bottlenecked at the uplink port.

    Originally Posted by dcsos
    and as you've now explained..this configuration really can't offer me any benefit
    because the new machines can't use these ports any faster..thanks!
    (or could I somehow bypass or adapt the copper out to fibre or optical?)
    Well, the gigabit cards will be able to run significantly faster than 100Mbit. But it doesn't matter if you use copper or fiber, tests have shown that a PC can not saturate a 1000Mbit link, even using a specially configured server-class machine with 64-bit PCI and nothing running except the network test software. The PCI bus can't keep up, I don't remember just what the limit was. Under normal daily use, the performance will be degraded even more because almost all of the hardware in a current PC is sharing the same PCI bus. More importantly, in average day-to-day use you probably won't see a meaningful difference, even if it could run at 1000Mbit.
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    Thanks ALL..
    Feeling educated now, I am....
    I guess the 8,000 dollar device was FIBER and also had networking capabilities only needed for server type stuff
    Too heavy networking for us MEDIA PROCESSING TYPES..or at least me!
    If two packets go in different directions on my NETWORK, thats an EVENT! as its really just three workers exploiting 6 workstations
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