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  1. Member mar-mar's Avatar
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    taken from www.flavatown.com msg board
    i wonder if the motion picture people will catch on and see benefits from DVD+/-R disc and burners if they haven't already

    ----Every Music CDR since the AHRA was enacted has a hidden tax built into the price! (2% of the manufacturers sales) This is supposedly to pay the artists for home recording. Who Collects the Tax? The RIAA under the auspices of the AARC. Who shares office space with the RIAA and has many of the RIAA employees working for it. I haven't been able to find one artist that was paid a cent of the money. 4% is set aside for non-featured artists, of the remainder 40% for the featured artist and 60% for the labels. To date I have not found one artist who has received one cent of this money. (Source: RIAA website) In addition every CD recorder has a $2.00 surcharge built into the price that goes directly to the RIAA
    The artists received not one cent of the money from the MP3.Com settlements of approx $158 Million to the labels. Who did??? The label themselves.

    "SoundExchange" the new digital rights collective for collecting royalties from internet play is a division of the RIAA. They did not distribute royalties in July 2001 as they were supposed to do, but instead decided to wait until next year.

    85% of all music is released by 5 major labels (Sony, EMI, UMG, Time Warner, & BMG)
    Federal Trade Commission (FTC Statement)

    At any given point about 20% of the music every recorded is available legally. The rest is locked away by the labels depriving the creators of a potential source of income, the fans of the music they want, while creating a false market for the band "d'jour."

    The RIAA on their website say the cost of CD's haven't risen as much as they could have read our take it.

    Read the settlement statement of the FTC findings against the Big 5
    concerning charges that all five companies illegally modified their existing cooperative advertising programs to induce retailers into charging consumers higher prices for CDs


    In 1999 music sales were up 11% not down
    Testimony of Hank Barry quoting a RIAA survey
    Chief Executive Officer
    Napster, Inc.
    Before the Senate Judiciary Committee

    In the first quarter of 2000 music sales are up 8% over last year
    Testimony of Hank Barry
    Chief Executive Officer
    Napster, Inc.
    Before the Senate Judiciary Committee

    Only companies can join the RIAA, they do nothing for the independent musician.
    RIAA website guidelines for membership

    Companies such as Napster and MP3.Com can't join RIAA due to the lawsuits brought by RIAA.

    We can control the distribution of music, by not buying any and boycotting the labels other businesses as well.

    See where the money really goes Steve Albini (producer of Nirvana's "In Utero)

    Interesting comment from Fox Entertainment Group (FOX) Chief Executive Peter Chernin, who has about as much of a clue as Jack Valenti:
    "Film makers can offer their audience a choice of ways to see movies -- they can view them in the theater, rent them, or buy them" "Music companies are much less flexible." "It's hard to buy one song. You're forced to buy the CD," he said.

    "I'd like to introduce the recording industry to something called bottled water," Jonathan Potter, executive director of Digital Media Association, said in a recent interview commenting on Free vs Fee online music. His lobbying group represents music sites that are trying to promote and sell music over the Internet.

    It is not correct to assume that every time a copy is made, a sale is lost, said Gary Shapiro, a spokesman for the Consumer Electronics Association. And, he also pointed out that many of the companies he represents, which make computers and other gadgets that enable people to copy music or download MP3s, have seen their sales fall much more sharply
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    Its a conspiracy. But hey, why are they attacking P2P users if they already are charging us for the songs with the CDs We buy?

    I wish this corparation would just get some sense into them and grow up.

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    sorry, what was your point mar-mar? the charges you mention are for Audio CD-r's, not the data CD-rs you use in a computer. Audio cd-rs are for use in stand alone cd recorders, and again, standalone recorders are the objects the fee applies to, not the burners you have in your computer. as for musicians being screwed by their label... so what? this has always happened and always will. if the arists don;t read their contract, or don;t get a laywer to do so for them, that's their fault. anyway, ANYONE can become a music label. all you need is a microphone, a PC and a cd burner. if artists don;t want to set up their own label to do what they want (like psi records, or lots of punk only labels) or find an indepndent label who is interested in music not money, that's up to them.
    As for the fees on audio CD-rs and recorders, it makes a lot of sense and it would be great if it were applied to MP3 and DVD. would you care if your MP3 player was $2 more expensive? no of course not, especially given the fact you could then use P2P to get whatever you liked and listen to it legally. you're happy (you get any music you like without breaking the law) the labels are happy (those 2$'s soon add up) and the artists are happy (everyone can hear their music for free)
    but hey, apparently the RIAA has it's head up it's own arse. fortunately we have no such thing in the UK
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