DVD SHRINK WINS HANDS DOWN

[TWEATTY]

i take back what i said about dvdxcopy...deleted it off my cpu..and for the record i never pay for soft ware until i first put it threw the ringer

after trying all the software mention in replies to (dvdxcopy ...rules) i've came to the following conclusion

if you using anything but dvd shrink your either uninformed or just plain stupid......

i no longer have a use for smart ripper, dvd2avi,tmpge infoedit,dvd decrypter,dvd2one and all the rest...

in the past two days i copied 7 dvd's several over 6.5 gigs with all the extras that you hold so dear. dvd shrink seemed to say is that all you got, and it's free

then burned each one w/ instant copy on one 4.7 gig dvdr....and the quality is awesome...and will encode circles around tmpge......im a beilever

forget about it.....dvd shrink wins hands down........thanks

[oldfart13]

Ah...but you still NEED Instant Copy. Without it, it just doesn't work as well as it should especially on long discs. Try to re-encode at level 3 or 4 and then tell me it's as good as the others. I use the DVD Decrypter/DVDToolbox/Instant Copy method, which takes a bit longer but gives me fantastic results, especially on discs where the movie or movie plus menus is over 7 Gigs (I've run into a couple of late). DVD Shrink by itself wants me to use a level 3 or 4 compression which frankly gives horrible results (motion artifacts, etc.). For me, DVD Shrink needs some work yet...

[Bob W]

I must be tired as I missed the reason you need to use Instant Copy along with DVDshrink. I can't think of any reason to use IC unless you're in the mood to waste three hours.

[pcgod]

TWEATTY,

Before you call any of us "stupid" again , try shrinking a whole bucketload of movies with your new found toy. I thought DVDShrink was the cat's meow myself, until I got to The Matrix. Lots of pixelation/skips/jumps using DVDShrink. I had to use SmartRipper for the rip, then finished off the rest with DVDShrink. Compression methods need to be more variable, too.

I agree it is a good program, but by no means perfect, as the author himself will tell you. Now that he is back from vacation, let's wait and see what brainchild he can come up with.

[MackemX]

if you using anything but dvd shrink your either uninformed or just plain stupid......

I think it goes more like "if you NOT using anything but dvd shrink your either uninformed or just plain stupid......"



I take it you are one of the BIG RED BUTTON gang

[Bob W]

"I take it you are one of the BIG RED BUTTON gang"

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to make your life less complicated and while you're at it saving a ton of time. I use DVD2one, DVDshrink, and DVD95 for those reasons.

[MackemX]

LOL

save a ton of time????

it takes me say 5-10 mins to setup IC, so where is the ton of time saved cos I don't sit there watching the progress bar, I do something else on the PC or just turn off the monitor and dissapear and come back to a top quality backup

IC is more complicated?? it maybe for you but it doesn't mean it is for others

why do people bother with CCE cos that is far more complicated and takes a little more usertime and processing?. It's not complicated if you know what to do and I think CCE was the best when I used it but IC gives me roughly the same quality for a lot less isertime and effort

as for processing speed, how many backups do people realistically need to do in a day?

with 15-20 mins user input I can backup a DVD from ripping to burning if you take away processing and could easily do at least 3 in a day. One before I goto work, one when I come in and one when I goto bed so that's around 20 a week!

but using one of the inferior quality tools I can do it in 5-10 mins usertime

a big saving of 10mins or so but I think 20 a week is just fine for me using IC

and I accept you don't like messing on with IC too much and you are happy with the quality you get from the others, fair enough

cos basically it's all down to time and effort needed and the quality required by the user that will determine what method they use

what's good for the goose ain't necessarily good for the gander

p.s. I actually use the method in my guide which is IC for the main movie and DVD95Copy for the menu & extras and get even better quality movie than IC could give due to DVD96Copy allocating more space to the movie and all for an extra 10 mins user input 8)

[tjtoed]

I resent being called stupid because I do not use DVDShrink...

The one time I tried it the resulting movie was choppy and the quality down right sucked.

It's free for a reason...

[MackemX]

the simpler the tool the simpler the ....

just kidding

like tjtoed's sig says, use what's best for you

[tjtoed]

Ah...but you still NEED Instant Copy. Without it, it just doesn't work as well as it should especially on long discs. Try to re-encode at level 3 or 4 and then tell me it's as good as the others. I use the DVD Decrypter/DVDToolbox/Instant Copy method, which takes a bit longer but gives me fantastic results, especially on discs where the movie or movie plus menus is over 7 Gigs (I've run into a couple of late). DVD Shrink by itself wants me to use a level 3 or 4 compression which frankly gives horrible results (motion artifacts, etc.). For me, DVD Shrink needs some work yet...

I have used this method for movie only, but does this method work for the whole disk?

[Bob W]

I don't want my computer tied up for two or more hours since I have uses for it like work. Also the difference in quality IMO from IC and programs like DVDshrink is small enough it's not worth using IC. Finally some like myself could care less about FBI warning screens, ads, extras and even menus. All I want is a high quality viewable movie backup.

[tjtoed]

the simpler the tool the simpler the ....

just kidding

like his sig says, use what's best for you

Not sure if I should resent that or not...

[MackemX]

this could go on all day and night

but hopefully everyone can understand that we all have different needs,differents amounts of time and resources to satisfy those needs, different perceptions of what is quality and different setups to view those results on

so this is why you get all the bitching about saying this is the best etc etc

it will never end cos you will always have differences of opinion due to these factors

now I have known this for ages even before DVD backups came about but the question is does everyone else?

say AYE if you do and NAY if you don't

[Bob W]

this could go on all day and night

but hopefully everyone can understand that we all have different needs,differents amounts of time and resources to satisfy those needs, different perceptions of what is quality and different setups to view those results on

so this is why you get all the bitching about saying this is the best etc etc

it will never end cos you will always have differences of opinion due to these factors

now I have known this for ages even before DVD backups came about but the question is does everyone else?

say AYE if you do and NAY if you don't

I agree with that also I never said anyone program was the best. Bottom line is what I use is best for my needs.

[MackemX]

I agree with that also I never said anyone program was the best. Bottom line is what I use is best for my needs.

I guess I mean't in general throughout the DVD backup world and not this thread but didn't word it well

but I do like people to open minded about it all which you are as I can see the reasons why you don't use IC

but I'm not so keen on TWEATTY's non DVDShrink users 'being stupid' comment so that's why I got q little defensive cos it's not really a fair comment that has any valid point to it all

I use them all apart from DVD2One cos DVD95Copy & DVDShrink compensate for it anywau and I use whatever tool I need at the time (even a combination of 2 or 3 tools) and not just one specific tool everytime

and the end resukt is one satified customer

[Bob W]

I'm too lazy to learn all the good programs.

[TWEATTY]

ok I'll say it again,if you using anything but dvd shrink your either uninformed or just plain stupid......

look, I've played the games using tmpge and all the rest that are not worth the seconds it takes me to type their names... I've copy , and yes I use the word copy as not to be politically correct..on purpose..Im coping damn near 8 gig movies on to one disk that the quality is 10x better that the blocky shit you get from tmpge or any of it's lesser counter parts.I don't have to play with the audio using dvd2avi, I don't have to play with not so smart ripper...or any of the useful at the time P.O.S software that simply has nothing for me any longer. you know it's not about the big red button...I'ts about common sense...less time playing with all the settings, means more time for me to sell condoms on ebay...and from the way it sounds somebody's parents should have used one...as far as IC taking 3 hours to burn the copy...well last time I looked DVD shrink doesn't have a burn button...and if you mean burn it with NERO or EZCD, I'll take my chances with IC thank you..Besides in my profile it clearly states I have two cpu's one for the movies (p4 2.4 gh) and one for getting my money..it's not like i'm gonna sit there and watch the process... so what's the difference to me if it takes 2,3,4,5, hours, The way I look at it, I'm getting paid to copy movies..you know if you think having a high post # next to your name makes you look like you know a thing or too, think about this..it seems to me someone with a high post # means they spend more time talking and less time doing...today cpu # 1 copied BRAVE HEART 7.95 gigs w/ DVD shrink on to one disk and at setting 6 I think, it came out far better then any software i've tried thus far..After something like 20 movies withuot a problem...I'm even more convinced then I was when I originally made this topic...My whole intention was to get you guy's pounding on those keyboards and look at you go... but really if works for you..than who am I to say your stupid...lets just say you rode the short bus to school..

oh for those of you that will spare the rest of us from reproducing and adding more idiots to the gene pool, look me up on ebay...my user name is TWEATTY there as well.......I'll even throw in a few free...

thanks guy's
this was fun......

[F-ING HOSTILE]

I resent being called stupid because I do not use DVDShrink...

The one time I tried it the resulting movie was choppy and the quality down right sucked.

It's free for a reason...

That's the exact same experience I had!! I think the stupid person is the one who claims, hands down, that one program is superior for all senarios. Call me stupid, but I personally enjoy having TMPGEnc, CCE, and the like for different applications.

[MackemX]

that post says it all about your personality and your intelligence
I won't even bother with my reasons but I am sure others will !


p.s.

[F-ING HOSTILE]

ok I'll say it again,if you using anything but dvd shrink your either uninformed or just plain stupid......

thanks guy's
this was fun......

I guess it doesn't take much to get some guys off

[Bob W]

My system is the best of them all. You fly to mainland China where you may then buy any DVD movie you want for under a dollar each.

[MackemX]

I guess it dosen't take much to get some guys off

, this is actually gonna be fun watching this post erupt

[F-ING HOSTILE]

My system is the best of them all. You fly to mainland China where you may then buy any DVD movie you want for under a dollar each.

Exactly!!! I'm with you there! And if you don't do it that way.......you're STUPID!!! (HEAVY SARCASM)

[F-ING HOSTILE]

I guess it dosen't take much to get some guys off

, this is actually gonna be fun watching this post erupt

I'm not out to raise a fuss. I just find it all so amusing. I was simply making light of the fact that calling people "stupid" was a "fun" time for some people. I'm sure everyone has a valid point, but see no reason to get so dramatic over the subject

[MackemX]

I'm sure everyone has a valid point, but see no reason to get so dramatic over the subject

everyone apart from TWEATTY

it will erupt if a few more people see the crap he has written but I think that how he get's his kicks :P

[F-ING HOSTILE]

I'm sure everyone has a valid point, but see no reason to get so dramatic over the subject

everyone apart from TWEATTY

it will erupt if a few more people see the crap he has written but I think that how he get's his kicks :P

I TOTALLY agree!!!!!

[mysterio1]

I just got DVD95copy 1.4 its like 5 times faster then Instant copy and the menu's do work, Unlike DVD shrink where the only way they work is if you only Encode leaving in all the extra's that I dont want.

I still use instant copy for the extra's and special features to put on seperate disc's and still use DVDXCOPY for the really long movies to split on 2 disc's.

[TWEATTY]

when you to china dont forget the mask....hey no wait leave it behind we'll get that gene pool cleaned up on way or another.... i'll be here all week....... i need a smile w/ mask

[MackemX]

Guys just ignore him, he's only had a burner for the lengthy time of 2 weeks so now he's an expert

he's just looking to rustle a few feathers and I thought I'd seen this name before

just look at the other posts HERE with leebo where he tried to tell TWEATTY that the 103 may have a ripping speed limiter on it but called him and other an idiot instead

and HERE less than a week old where he thought DVDXCopy was the greatest thing since the color TV and then look at the original post in this thread where he says he's deleted it

changed his mind rather quickly

dude, if you wanna rustle some feathers and also be abusive in your posts as you have previously then go somewhere else to do it, if not then try to post something constructive and not insult people that try to help instead of what you have posted in some of tthis forum cos I'm sure Baldrick prefers it that way

we are all here for the same reason but why insult people's intelligence cos you will only end up startiing arguments

if you have any sense you will agree with me although admittedlty I've been a bit harsh with my posts but only in defence so I'll be the first to apologise if in any way if I have offended you and will wipe the slate clean

the ball's in your court my friend so show your true colors with your next reply

p.s. I hope you ain't another ElQues02 , Baldrick will know what I mean

[TWEATTY]

yea, your right...a select few have helped with their advice,but mostly everyone else thinks they know all and have done all.and they come off with this better than f--king thou attitude....so i figured why not throw the first punch....and i have for so long been searching for a all in one ripper/encoder that works worth a f--k..i thought i found one in dvdxcopy...and i got it for free off kazaa..so i was like hey this is not bad..but when it came down to using two disk i said f--k that. but then threw a friend i was turned on to shrink and all the time i was wasting on the movies the old way was finally over...i tell you, use what works for you...this works for me...you know a lot of kids come here for help, so you guy's that run behind every post..playing quick draw on the replies might want to cut them some slack...this is the reason i had the f--king attitude in the first place...you know i.m a 35 year old man who works two jobs, not counting ebay,and i don't have a lot of time to begin with,so to sit in front the cpu for hours on end to get a movie that was watchable was really giving me the blues..i kept praying to the nerd gods to give me something i could work with...and it seems they have answered...since i started using shrink it has not yet turned out a coaster...don't get me wrong a lot of the other programs have their place, but not for me, i don't have the time, so if i offended anyone i too apologies..but it's good to stir up things every once and a while...hope there's no hard feelings....

"they'll keep making them and i'll keep coping them"

tweatty

ps... whoever purchased the condoms.....thanks, i'll get them in the mail right away.........