DVD95Copy v1.3.... Wow!

[Triple_Helix]

This thing is great! The new Dvd95Copy v1.3 allows you to include or exclude as many extras as you want, and compress them down to as little as 30%. A movie only dvd utilizes every last byte of available disc space (IC uses 1.6 GB less than the original movie size). This guy has somehow made it faster, while keeping the image quality high… the best IMO. I can’t think of a single reason to use IC again. It’s cumbersome and sloooow. Sorry for the rant, but it’s just that good!

[Bob W]

I use it all the time now over Instant Copy and yes I can't see any reason to use Instant Copy unless I want to kill three hours.

[Baldrick]

Could anyone post any screenshots of dvd95copy with the new settings? the demo is still version 1.2.2.

[spaceman]

This zip file is provided by mrbass http://www.mrbass.org/instantcopy/gladeheateher.zip

I do not know what versions of DVD95COPY & DVD2ONE are being used to produce the images but as you can see DVD95COPY & DVD2ONE look pretty much the same but IC7 is just so much sharper look at the scene with the fire,DVD2ONE & DVD2ONE are very blocky but not so IC7.

If you want the full 1.1 copy i would advise IC7 & if you want movie only then look at DVD2ONE & DVD95COPY... just my opinion...

[itspolo]

i agree that instant copy is the best quality, and i have used it on several occasions, but for some reason I have recently encountered problems...after hours of transcoding , i extract the pdi and try to burn with recordnow, only to get an error!!!!why?
it was working well and then this is happening...anyone else experience this?

[MackemX]

yep, I agree DVD95Copy is the top dog overall and can only get better

It's better than IC for main movie quality due to the fact it can compress the menu/extras to within +- 2% of what you tell it to and then produce a result between 4.35-4.37Gb, therefore utilizing the 4.37Gb efficiently by allowing more space for the all important movie title and fully using it!

whereas IC sometimes can't even see past the 1st PGC in a titleset wasting whatever space there is for the rest of that titleset and then also undersizing and all this has an effect on the resulting main movie quality % setting

this can sometimes be upto 15% higher setting for the main movie when using DVD95Copy when compared to InstantCopy and that's why DVD95Copy seems to produce better results as it's normally up in the 80's%

that's why I use DVD95Copy for the extras and IC for the main movie and merge them together and get the best possible results from any of the three cheaper methods

[dreadogg]

only can tell on the fire scene and by far IC seems to take it, I can not tell the difference between DVD2ONE and DVD95 at all maybe someone else can post some pics, I really wish they had included some pics of CCE also, considering this is what I mostly use.

[MackemX]

http://www.striker2000.com/pics.zip

IC will always take it in one to one comparisions due to it's nature of encoding, it's the effecient way DVD95Copy compresses the menu/extras and allows more for the main movie than IC and therefore improves it's quality

[mrhua]

i agree that instant copy is the best quality, and i have used it on several occasions, but for some reason I have recently encountered problems...after hours of transcoding , i extract the pdi and try to burn with recordnow, only to get an error!!!!why?
it was working well and then this is happening...anyone else experience this?

Yes!! I have had pretty good luck with IC but there have been 2 movies now that have failed burn with recordnow!! Currently I'm trying to backup Dude, Where's My Car (no comments, please ) and can't burn the disc with the VIDEO_TS folder extracted from the PDI file.

So, either 1) the files that IC makes are somehow messed up, or 2) the process of extracting the VIDEO_TS folder from the PDI files (pdixtract) messes them up, or 3) recordnow is screwed up. I'd guess it's #1 or #2, but ... ?

Has anyone else come across this and perhaps solved it? It's driving me crazy.

I've thougth about getting DVD95Copy, but I've already bought 2 tools (IC and dvd2one) and keep telling myself that I don't need a 3rd.... do I?

Thx
drHua

[dreadogg]

really cant tell much difference with the pics you linked in any of the programs, maybe its just me. I opened them all in photoshop and increased it to 150 % and still can very slightly tell that they are different pics.

[spaceman]

i agree that instant copy is the best quality, and i have used it on several occasions, but for some reason I have recently encountered problems...after hours of transcoding , i extract the pdi and try to burn with recordnow, only to get an error!!!!why?
it was working well and then this is happening...anyone else experience this?

Yes!! I have had pretty good luck with IC but there have been 2 movies now that have failed burn with recordnow!! Currently I'm trying to backup Dude, Where's My Car (no comments, please ) and can't burn the disc with the VIDEO_TS folder extracted from the PDI file.

So, either 1) the files that IC makes are somehow messed up, or 2) the process of extracting the VIDEO_TS folder from the PDI files (pdixtract) messes them up, or 3) recordnow is screwed up. I'd guess it's #1 or #2, but ... ?

Has anyone else come across this and perhaps solved it? It's driving me crazy.

I've thougth about getting DVD95Copy, but I've already bought 2 tools (IC and dvd2one) and keep telling myself that I don't need a 3rd.... do I?

Thx
drHua

Would it not be easier to burn direct with IC7,thats what i do.Not had one problem doing so as yet.

It has been well reported about a problem/flaw in RNM that being on occasions it gives errors,i get round this by selecting options>datadisc & uncheck the recognise VIDEO_TS & AUDIO_TS folders.This has worked on all my players including Xbox & Ps2,however if this box is unchecked it has been reported that not all players will play the copy so its what works for you..

[mrhua]

Would it not be easier to burn direct with IC7,thats what i do.Not had one problem doing so as yet.

It has been well reported about a problem/flaw in RNM that being on occasions it gives errors,i get round this by selecting options>datadisc & uncheck the recognise VIDEO_TS & AUDIO_TS folders.This has worked on all my players including Xbox & Ps2,however if this box is unchecked it has been reported that not all players will play the copy so its what works for you..

Hi. Yes, it would be easier to burn directly with IC7 and that's what I do when this happens. However, I prefer to do my DVD-Decrypter and IC/Dvd2One process on a second computer (it has a faster CPU and it's DVD-rom drive reads in much faster than my A04 does) and then when it's done, I move the VIDEO_TS directory over the network to the computer with my A04 burner.

Thanks for the tip on unchecking the 'recogonize VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS folders' in recordnow. I think I'll leave it checked for now, as I don't think that's the problem. When my recordnow burning fails, it fails 30 to 40% through the burn, not at the pre-check stage. Damn DVDR coasters.

drHua

[Haku]

Just checked out the pics that MackemX posted in that zip.The CCE pics are better.

The others were'nt bad though.

[Cyrl]

well overall IC's picture quality is far superior to the others, so really what happens when you have IC screwing up the size and leaving 600mb on the DVD available and DVD95COPY filling it to the brim is DVD95COPY can get it's quality closer to that of IC's on the same copy..... oh but the menus and the like look like they have been run over by a truck... and it takes a bit longer to burn it =P

Really the ONLY reason it can compete in my opinion is it's better efficiency at filling out a disc and sizing closer to what you specify, if IC can get that fixed (and who really thinks a company that size can't get it done, hell they could hire the DVD95COPY programmers to do it, the Microsoft way!)

I just think it's rather funny really how heated the discussion gets about which is the best

[Bob W]

well overall IC's picture quality is far superior to the others, so really what happens when you have IC screwing up the size and leaving 600mb on the DVD available and DVD95COPY filling it to the brim is DVD95COPY can get it's quality closer to that of IC's on the same copy..... oh but the menus and the like look like they have been run over by a truck... and it takes a bit longer to burn it =P

Really the ONLY reason it can compete in my opinion is it's better efficiency at filling out a disc and sizing closer to what you specify, if IC can get that fixed (and who really thinks a company that size can't get it done, hell they could hire the DVD95COPY programmers to do it, the Microsoft way!)

I just think it's rather funny really how heated the discussion gets about which is the best

I don't think the average person is going to see much difference in quality when they watch a movie on their big screen TV. I sure don't but perhaps if I dig out my electron scanning microscope I might see the difference.

[Cyrl]

ummm Bob... you have it in reverse, the average person won't see it on their 19-24 inch TV or 17-19 inch monitor... on your Big screen TV it's all the more pronounced, every artifact becomes a sears tower sized blip on your screen, fire looks like it's made from Legos, you begin to wonder if you are watching real people or claymation..... The bigger and bigger your viewing area gets the more and more important image quality becomes...

Watch over the air television on a 13 inch TV, doesn't look half bad if you have a decent antenna, now watch it on a 52inch big screen HDTV... ever bit of static is the size of a golfball and rather noticeable.

[dreadogg]

well I have a 54 inch tv and I can tell when something is badly compressed, but really from those pictures you cant tell much, I looked again and I found that InstantCopy looked the best outa all of them, there diffinetly is a difference between CCE/IC and dvd95/DVD2ONE, CCE/IC wins hands down but between CCE and IC its a hard decision I would like to see more pics before the decision is made.

[Cyrl]

Zoom in on the picture so that it's scaled on your screen to be roughly the size it would be if it were on your TV... and then consider the differences.

[Bob W]

I have made the same movie using all three programs and all I can tell you folks to me on my 48 inch big screen is that perhaps IC is slightly better but to me it's not worth the extra three hours it takes to do it's thing.

[MackemX]

LOL
same old same old, big TV, little TV, can't see any difference

read this quote from DVDDemystified and then think about your answer

"In the end it's a matter of individual perception and the level of quality delivered by the playback system"

believe me if you have the right playback system and a half decent eye for quality you will notice the difference, it's as simple as that and if anyone disagrees then you ain't gotta clue about the differences you can get during playback from different system setups!

when you walk in your local electrical store, do all the TV's display the same quality image????????

EXACTLY!, they don't do they?

and size of the TV has nothing to do with, it's the quality of the image produced by that TV that is the main concern

you can't notice the difference if your setup don't display a difference in the first place can you?

[Cyrl]

Hmmm contrary to your opinion on the matter, size does still in fact matter. So do the cables used, the playback equipment used, etc etc... but Size IS a factor... small errors are easier seen on a bigger screen, yes a higher quality bigger screen will make them even easier to see but seeing MPG artifacts on a 52 inch screen is easier than on a 13 inch....
But you are dead on when you say

"In the end it's a matter of individual perception and the level of quality delivered by the playback system"
believe me if you have the right playback system and a half decent eye for quality you will notice the difference, it's as simple as that and if anyone disagrees then you ain't gotta clue about the differences you can get during playback from different system setups!

[MackemX]

Hmmm contrary to your opinion on the matter, size does still in fact matter. So do the cables used, the playback equipment used, etc etc... but Size IS a factor... small errors are easier seen on a bigger screen, yes a higher quality bigger screen will make them even easier to see but seeing MPG artifacts on a 52 inch screen is easier than on a 13 inch....

LOL, I agree there, but I was talking more in general that it's still the quality of the system setup no matter how big the TV is that will determine the quality of the image produced and that's why you get such varied opinions about quality from DVD backup tools

If we all sat in the same room in the same place and looked at the same images, I bet there would STILL be a difference of opinion between people (not that we would all sit in the same room )

[Cyrl]

I see where you are coming from on that and you're right about that... I happen to watch a lot more MPEG2 encoded television than most normal people do, I have a ReplayTV so anything I watch on TV is MPEG2, When I got a better TV (and bigger than the old one) the artifacts in the lowest recording quality became MUCH more noticeable, almost to the point where I can't use it anymore unless it's something I am not going to be watching from my TV seating and maybe only half paying attention to from over at the PC... A good TV set highlights the flaws in an image, and a bad one hides them, unfortunately the same holds true for the picture detail as well =P

LOL, I agree there, but I was talking more in general that it's still the quality of the system setup no matter how big the TV is that will determine the quality of the image produced and that's why you get such varied opinions about quality from DVD backup tools

If we all sat in the same room in the same place and looked at the same images, I bet there would STILL be a difference of opinion between people (not that we would all sit in the same room )