DVD PLAYER PLAYING MPEG1 OR MPEG2

[flaviosi]

Hi, guys,

Can you point me any DVD player able to play mpeg1 or mpeg2 directly?

Thanks for any info!

[Vejita-sama]

If by directly you mean buring a *.mpg file to a CDR (or DVD-ROM disc) and playing it then yeah that can be done. The KISS line can do this. Check the DVD Players lists to the left.

However, if you have a MPEG1 or MPEG2 file why not just author it to VCD or SVCD/DVD and play it normally? The main advantage to the KISS line is that they play avi/divx/xvid files, ANY DVD player will play mpeg1 and mpeg2 files (when correctly authored, and authoring doesn't take up any extra space so...)

[andkiich]

to go along with what vegita-sama is saying, when authored, you open up the playability of your video. What I mean by this is that later in the future if your DVD player than can play MPEG1-2 files directly breaks down and you need to get another, you can just get any DVD player that plays +-R.

[flaviosi]

Hi, guys,

Thanks or theinput.

Well, I think the main advantage on playing the Mpeg1 or 2 or divx file dirextly is basically time.

Unfortunatelly, I don't have the time needed to auhor a VCD or SVCD. I'd love to simply download i from the camera, burn the mpeg file to a CD and that's it...

Anyway, is the KISS brand the only one capable of doing that?

Thanks!

[gsamokhleb]

The Initial 9510 is a great player for this.

[txpharoah]

Apex does MPEG ISO.

[flaviosi]

I'm not looking for a portable DVD.

Thanks for the info, anyway!

[flaviosi]

Hi, guys,

I've read the .pdf documentation of the Kiss 450 DVD player,but it doesn't mention reading ISO mpeg 1 and mpeg2. Are you guys sure about it? It seems that it only reads Divx.

Thanks!

[Scienide]

Alba DVD114 plasy them fine directly from a disc on mine...but it really doesnt take that much longer to author it to a VCD and just enjoy the full benefits the guys have listed above....seriously....Playing Mpeg fiules straight off the disc is like smoking a snapped fag, you get the same end result but its a bit raw.

[dcsos]

The VCD capable APEX 1500 will do this
also plays .VOB in the root

but no DIVX or XVCD

[lechtin]

I've seen an Apex AD1200 and my Norcent DP300 do it.

[housepig]

Unfortunatelly, I don't have the time needed to auhor a VCD or SVCD.

DVD Lab.

open the app, import the file.

drag file to Movie 1.

double click Menu. click on Text tool, type "play movie".

drag Movie 1 to text to link to it.

compile project.

total time for a full disc - about 5 minutes.

compiling time aside, it took more time to write this post than to author that disc.

[juniormint]

Can I take VCD quality mpegs (I guess mpg 1?) and put a ton of them onto a DVD-R?

I've been archiving some of my favorite shows and figure I can get almost 16 25min episodes onto a DVD-R, but I've never heard of a DVD that was 7-8 hours long so I don't know if there's a limit.

By "authoring" or "compiling," does that mean that the software will convert mpg1 to mpg2 and therefore I'd lose the extra space?

thanks,
jr

[dcsos]

Can I take VCD quality mpegs (I guess mpg 1?) and put a ton of them onto a DVD-R?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!
None of these special PLAYERS will play anything odd on a DVD

only on a CD-R or CD-RW surface can you try these oddities

When A DVD is inserted, THESE CONSUMER PLAYERS ARE LOOKING for a DVD VOLUME..Most won't even let you put mp3's on a DVD-R..
this is a no-no for all but 4 or so players ever manufactured..

So unless you were talking about taking the files and authoring them onto the dvd...(not like the rest of the posters in this thread who are asking about naked MPEG playback)

OF COURSE ther's more models made daily!

Also note that in the APEX's case you have to deal with stardard files anyway..you can't go putting anything but 720x480 mpeg-2 or in the case of MPEG-1 352x240 (and their pal equivalents).
So you're better off buying the "standard "player and folowing
housepigs advice!

[Vejita-sama]

Well the DVD standard supports 352x240 MPEG1 video (Which is the same as VCD) but the audio should be 48khz instead of 44.1khz (it should also be either ac3 or PCM, but most players will play mp2 48khz audio w/o problems).

Again, it's all about authoring. Authoring really doesn't take that much time, encoding does, maybe some people are confusing the too???

[ZippyP.]

As well, in ISO mode (data disk) an 80 min CD will only hold 700 Mb while a typical (S)VCD is burned in mode 2 and will hold 800 MB. Another reason to author and burn.

[juniormint]

Yeah, I lump encoding and authoring in the same batch since I do them together. Video from my video capture board always needs to be re-encoded - for some mysterious reason - which adds to the whole process.

So, if I'm understanding you right - I can capture at MPeg-1 quality - with 48khz audio - and author to DVD - fitting 6+ hours on a 4.3Gig DVD?

-jr

[dcsos]

So You WERE TALKING about AUTHORING!
YES..You Can put that on AUTHORED DVD!
But its now a DVD with lots of MPEG1 files in the disc..
Its no longer a VCD..as you prob know

[juniormint]

Here's where I get confused. I record tv shows - 30 minutes takes about 300 MBs in VCD quality.

Does that mean on a 4Gig DVD - after authoring - I can fit 13 episodes - or 6.5 Hours of video?

Or is it like authoring an Audio CD - doesn't matter if I use 64kpbs mp3's or 320kpbs mp3's - in the end I can only fit 80 minutes on a single cdr?

-jr

[ckdexterhn1]

I record tv shows - 30 minutes takes about 300 MBs in VCD quality. Does that mean on a 4Gig DVD - after authoring - I can fit 13 episodes - or 6.5 Hours of video?

Yes, but the audio should be 48khz instead of 44.1khz. It would be a long play VCD on DVD.

in the end I can only fit 80 minutes on a single cdr?

You can fit a few hours of video on a single cd! Go to www.kvcd.net

[Thomas Davie]

Using the KVCD ULBR template for TMPGEnc, I can fit 9 episodes of South Park on 1 80 minute CD. This is authored or raw. That's 3 hours. The quality does suffer a bit though.

However, using some of the other KVCD templates (I think KVCD-CQ-352x240-_NTSCFilm_-PLUS.mcf) you can fit 2 hours of high quality video on 1 CD. Your mielage may vary though. At the KVCD site (www.kvcd.net) there is a test image you can burn with Nero to see if your DVD player can handle these files....it's only a 14 mb or so download).

Tom

[juniormint]

This is very interesting stuff - I've been doing vcd's for years and hadn't heard of it before!

But it sounds like whatever video I capture, I have to re-encode in tmpeg using one of the kvcd filters - haven't done it yet - but I have a feeling it will take a LONG time, longer than the video itself - which may not be worth the effort...

[geno325is]

anyone have first hand knowledge of burning raw mpeg (mpeg iso ) onto DVD and playing them on an APEX 3disc changer? help

[Thomas Davie]

Juniormint: You're right; you're re-encoding, or transcoding from raw AVI and it does take time. I let mine go in batch encodes while at work.

geno325is: Not raw mpegs, but you coul be able to put lots of mpeg-1's on a DVD using Ulead Moviefactory 2 (which just re-encodes the audio to 48 khz, but leaves the video untouched).

Tom

[Vejita-sama]

Right so do NOT confuse encoding with authoring, they are two different processes. This is a text based forum so if you say you're doing A but actually doing B it just confuses everyone

But yes, if you capture/encode as normal but with 48khz audio you can just author that to DVD and have 430min per DVDR (using the VCD bitrates). Once you author thou it becomes a DVD (not a VCD). It contains VOB/IFO files etc. Which in many ways is better as you can then:

Create true menus
The disc is more likely to play on multiple DVD Players
Supports interlaced source
etc.etc.etc.

[vivisimonvi]

anyone have first hand knowledge of burning raw mpeg (mpeg iso ) onto DVD and playing them on an APEX 3disc changer? help

You're probably refering to the 5131 model. I had two actually but both had different firmware versions thus different features. After my first broke down (I used a generic power cord that shorted it out, my fault), Circuit City gave me a different one of the same model. This one was a bit better (except for the fact it made a lot of noise playing discs). Not only does it play MPEG1 and MPEG2 ISO burned on CD-R but also on recordable DVD-R. My older model would try to recognize it as DVD Video which sucked. The same with MP3's though it doesn't play MP3-DVD very well. During shuffle mode, the player has a hard time going to differnet parts of the disc (thus some skipping occurs in the beginning of each song changed).