Forty-Two and DVD to DVD-R

[earlygrace]

First of I would like to say that the app works great for a all in one tool, I just pop the DVD in and select DVD and hit start, the next morning a nice and easy to burn iso is waiting for me, what more could I ask for?

BUT is anyone else having these problems?

If I leave the setting at default I end up with a 2.8Gb file, very small and poor quailty, I will have to adjust the setting to get better results, fine I have to play around with that.

I have tried 3 movies: Pulp Fiction, Double Jeopardy, and Signs with the same problems everytime, is it me, am I doing something wrong?

My problem is when I try to play the movie in my Panisonic Standalone DVD player the video is jerky and the sound is slightly out of sync.

When I play it in my Pioneer Standalone DVD player the Video is nice and smooth but there is no audio, how is that?

It can't be the DVD-R's cause they work great when I make a dick image f a DVD under 4.4GB and work great when I rip the Video and Audio and build a disk in DVDSP.

Anyone experiancing simular problems?

[jefwest]

Ya you have to calculate what bitrate you want to rip the dvd at to maximize quality per time. I basically used mrbitratecalc on version tracker for my first rip, but i ripped at 2500 kbps, which got me a 1.85 GB image for a 130 minute movie....so since the bitrate calc failed me i used that result to calculate the maximum bitrate i could rip my 173 minute movie (HEAT with pacino and deniro), and i calculated like 3800, i am ripping it now at this quality and hopefully wil have an image around 4.2 or 4.3 gb, no more that 4.3 though , otherwise my next day and a half of encoding will be wasted. P.S., anyone got any tips on how to speed up encoding? I tried speed forty two up and all it did when i dragged 42 onto it was ask me for a password (admin) which i entered, then it didn't launch 42, i had to manually launch 42, which i did....and it's taking 37 hours or so on a 867 G4 with 768 MB ram and nothing else running for a 130 minute movie.....is this normaly? anyone getting faster speeds? Just curious folks, if ya got any hints or anything let me know. Thanks!

[DannyZR2]

I thought 42 was supposed to do the bitrate calc automatically... (all in one app?????)

I personally haven't been using the program much.. I like to see that people are developing for Mac and I've donated twice to the developers... just waiting for dramatic speed increase and a couple more features...

(keep chapters #1, keep menus #2)

check out Pinnacle Systems Instant Copy... (PC - I know) but very sweet.. I'm using that for now....

[earlygrace]

So no one is having a problem after burning the iso where they try to play the movie in their Standalone DVD player the video is jerky and the sound is slightly out of sync.

It is just me, in the whole world, it is just me?

[zennman]

So no one is having a problem after burning the iso where they try to play the movie in their Standalone DVD player the video is jerky and the sound is slightly out of sync.

It is just me, in the whole world, it is just me?

I'm having the same thing. Panasonic DVD using Apple media. Fellowship of Rings DVD-DVDR at default settings. Sync slightly out of sync and video skips alot. They do play alot better on my computer.

I'm trying VBR 3 to see what changes. Wish there was more info about how to set these settings.

[wiedenu]

I set my VBR to 6, came out with a pretty good quality rip/burn of Mummy Returns. Plays well on both MDD DP 867 and on set-top DVD player.

Using generic DVD-R media found on eBay.

[jefwest]

So no one is having a problem after burning the iso where they try to play the movie in their Standalone DVD player the video is jerky and the sound is slightly out of sync.

It is just me, in the whole world, it is just me?

I have the same DAMN problem!! The video is jerky and the audio's not in synch........weird......trying another attempt right now of a different DVD with DVD to DVD-R at 6000 kbps, i haven't tried VBR...i figured i shouldn't since that meanst like dropping frames and shit, or should i? what's that q checkbox to? and whats a good bitrate calculator to user that mr bit budget sucks for using 42's settings, i got a 2.4 gb file when i put in the max it said i could encode at and i entered everything right, DVD-5, 224 audio, and my minutes, 129 of video....weird.....no ROM data either.....oh well......back to 0sex and ffmpeg i guess for now

[jefwest]

just additional info, I used Apple Media and have an APEX 1500......the most versatile player on the face of the planet......so i'm guessing it's the encoding, although it seems to play with apples dvd player.....weird....maybe toast?

[wiedenu]

Do you use Toast to burn your DVDs? I've heard Toast isn't the best with the .iso and other images from forty-two. I used Disc Copy to burn my DVD. No sync problems. Have only tried one DVD though, will try more this weekend.

[earlygrace]

o you use Toast to burn your DVDs? I've heard Toast isn't the best with the .iso and other images from forty-two. I used Disc Copy to burn my DVD

I used Disc Copy to burn mine, I will try toast and see if it makes a fixes the problem. I am also going to try some different media, and settings in Forty-two, but I realy think it must be an encoding thing, maybe the rate is to low.

I have the same DAMN problem!! The video is jerky and the audio's not in synch........weird......trying another attempt right now of a different DVD with DVD to DVD-R at 6000 kbps, i haven't tried VBR...i figured i shouldn't since that meanst like dropping frames and shit, or should i?

jefwest, sorry you are having the same problem but I am glad to see it is not just me.

[the_locke]

this doesn't quite fit in for the DVD -> DVD-R - but I can say that I have had very similar problems with the video on a DVD -> SVCD/VCD run last week.

Tried the same movie (Oceans's Eleven) in a run for VCD and SVCD and had two major problems.

First - video way choppy - sound was a bit on the low side volume wise, but in sync throughout. Plays great on mac - not on player (Apex 1531).

Second - the second .bin was just WAY too big to burn. Over 975 meg. I know for "time" this should work, but so far nothing has. Toast hates it, MMB hates ME and OSX burner looks at that file size and laughs at me.

Stange addition to this - bought new player (Samsung) and disk one plays like a dream! Both the VCD and SVCD versions, burned in MMB and Toast. Same ones that stutter on the Apex. Gave the .bin/.cue files to friend with a PC who is also big into SVCD - he burned the files to disk and it again playes FINE in the Samsung, he has an APEX and guess what - it stutters on the video on playback!

Looks like we have a multiple issue in this - Toast burning in general - and some players specifically.

[pants]

i get the jerky video too and i think it's cause it encodes at 23.97, at least on the dvd's i've tried cause that's what it's supposed to do, but i wish 42 could also add into it's step, making the video 29.97 with the 3:2 pulldown, cause it i take the 23.97 mpeg from 42 and put it through pulldown x it plays smoothly, but then so far the audio goes out of sync, so i can't get a usefull dvd yet with 42 cause they all turned out so far to be 23.97. vcd's at this rate work fine on my players, but all 3 of my players play the video jerky.

[sportrac]

I see the jerkyness as well with my Panasonic player. Not only that, I only get roughly 45 min of the movie. Should I add more chapters? I gave the DVD-R to my friend and he didn't notice the jerkyness on his player at all (not Panasonic). I can say that it probably isn't media associated because it happened with both Apple media and Verbatim 2x media for me. Perhaps it is in the burning process.

I have been dragging the .iso file onto toast and just burning it as a UDF DVD format. What happens if one mounts the image and then drags the DVD icon into toast and just burns a "DVD" not UDF type? Are these two different formats?

Has anyone noticed that the DVD can be ejected using the eject key on the keyboard while transcoding?

Another thought... Maybe it is just an unadvertised bug?!

[earlygrace]

What is a UDF, I get that type of DVD when I burn a VIDEO_TS folder to DVD, but I don't get it if I do a DVD image of a DVD5 disk.

I think I know what the problem is with forty-two, I get choppy video only if I don't do the following to the .M2V file before I bring it into DVDSP.

The original video on a dvd is actually recorded at 23.976 FPS (frames per second). To make the MPEG work on the DVD player, flags are inserted that tell the player to double some of the frames to reproduce 30 (actually 29.97) FPS.

What I have to do is process my finished M2V file through a little program called MPEG Telecine. It produces a 3:2 pulldown of my 30 FPS MPEG2 video file, making it play back at the proper framerate of 23.976 FPS. Best of all the process only takes about two minutes.

This is the problem with Forty-two, I don't think it does this step, there for leving you with choppy video.

[KaiCherry]

I personally do not use forty-two for this as it takes waaaaay too long on my machine.

-K

[sportrac]

So where do you get the Telecine software?

Have you had problems in not getting the whole movie recorded? I just basically set the options for VBR to 3, set DVD, and click start. Should I click "more" and select the chapters 1 - X?

[earlygrace]

Sportrac, So where do you get the Telecine software?

you can get it here:
http://homepage.mac.com/DVD_SP_Helper/Download/Download.html

[sportrac]

Thanks!