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  1. can i copy a playstation game onto a CDr or CDRW to play on the playstation 2?
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  2. Im new here, but i dont really think this is the place to ask . But it should work as long as u use clonecd and your burner is raw+96 capable . To check this go to http://elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/writers/a.html
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  3. you need a mod chip in your ps2 before you can play any backed up games
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  4. Wrong place, But Playstation 2 is dvd format so it will not work on cd's.
    When one talks of copying copyright disc, It is for archival purposes or backup ONLY!!!!!!!!!



    lol :P
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  5. Playstation 2 consoles still have the ability to play ps1 discs. I dont think u need a mod chip because clone cd makes an identical copy of the, "weak sectors" and all. Iremeber a friend who use to play backup games on his unmodded ps1 , and from what i heard he had no probs
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    It is impossible to make an exact copy of any ps1 or ps2 game with any software. Clonecd will NOT work. All playstation games have bad sectors on the disks which no burner in existence can duplicate. It is these bad sectors which tell the console whether the disk is an original or not.

    A copied ps1 game cannot be played on an unmodified psone or ps2 console. For the psone you need either the ps-x-changer boot disk, a game enhancer, or a mod chip to boot backup games.

    To play a backup psone or ps2 game on the PS2 you need a mod chip or you need to use one of the primitive swapping methods.

    Some PS2 games are released on dvd media but many are still released on cd media, and of course the PS2 has support for all psone games which are cds.

    To answer the original question, you will first need a modchip. Then you can copy any ps1 or ps2 cd based game using pretty much any cd copying software. The backup will not be an exact copy, but it will still boot up and play if you have the mod chip installed. As for dvd based games you would need to burn on dvd-r media.

    I don't know if the PS2 can read cdrw media. The easiest way to find out would be to burn an audio disk and see if it plays.
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  7. adam wrote:
    Some PS2 games are released on dvd media but many are still released on cd media, and of course the PS2 has support for all psone games which are cds.


    how can you tell? sorry if it's a dumb question.
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    It will tell you on the cover of the game. They are labeled DVD Rom.
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    how does the company put in the bad sectors?
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  10. Stamped in the manufacturing process...

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  11. Also when you copy ps1 games, use ClonyXXL along with the latest version of CloneCD. Generally it doesn't matter what program you use to copy, but this way you can be sure that it won't screw up. Another thing, a lot of sites I've been to say copy the games at no higher than 4x.. that's BS, I've copied at least 20 of my games at 24x with no problems.
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    if this protection is so hard to bypass why dont they make all cds like this? For example they do this on dvds and the only way they'll play is if its real. This will make backing-up DVD impossible since no one can duplicate these bad sectors.
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    if this protection is so hard to bypass why dont they make all cds like this? For example they do this on dvds and the only way they'll play is if its real. This will make backing-up DVD impossible since no one can duplicate these bad sectors.
    You are missing the point.

    The reason this copy protection works at all is because the PSX uses a special CD drive / special hardware that can detect the bad sectors. This copy protection system wouldn't work if you intended the disc to be used/played on a standard CD drive.

    And I wouldn't say that the copy protection is particularly hard to bypass -- modchip?

    BTW, for you Aussies out there, modchips are now no longer in the never-never land and are LEGAL (thanks to the ACCC's action against Sony).

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    thanks for explaining that to me
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  16. When did Mod chips become legal?...and if there legal how come interact or some major 3rd party company like that isn't picking them up and manufacturing them for commercial use?
    To burn or not to burn, that is the question.
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  17. They are legal in Australia. Don't know about the rest of the world.

    Sony tried to use the new Digital amendments in the Australian Copyright act to claim that modchips were devices designed to break its digital copy protection scheme. This lead to all modchip vendors (who were previous in the grey market but open) to go completely into the underworld.

    The ACCC (Australian Competition and Consumer Commission) took Sony to court and counter-claimed that Sony's "PSX protection method" was an anticompetitive device as it not only (1) prevented consumers from making legal backups of their software but also (2) prevented consumers from playing games legally bought from overseas (pertinent since many games are not released in the Australian market). As such, modchips were required to overcome this problem.

    In short, the ACCC won (well sort of, there's a twist to the ruling) and so modchips are now officially "legal" in Australia (it may be better described as "not-illegal").

    Sony's case was originally against some guy selling modchips and pirated games. Obviously, he got busted for the pirated games but not the modchips.

    http://www.tne.net.au/psx/News/ACCC%20-%20Media%20Releases.htm
    http://www.tne.net.au/psx/News/sonyloseshighcourt.htm

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    I'm also new here, but, if I was going to make a back up of my ps2 games, do I need a DVD drive in my computer to read the info on the disc? I know I need a modchip in the ps2 to play them. I have a burner and a cd-rom in my computer. Thank in advance
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  19. If it's a DVD you need a DVD drive, if its a CD you need a CD drive, obvious when you think about it.
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    although i'm a newbie at burning vcds I know for a fact that you can burn psx 2 games with a computer.I'm sorry to say that I don't know the exact process,but i just wanted to let you guys know that there is a way.They do it down at Mexico City.They copy the games and then sell them in the streets(they cost like USD$0.30) when I was visiting I saw them and asked them (I wantyed to know for my OWN games) but they wouldn't tell me.
    Anyway ...there must be a method

    And I know you don't need a modchip
    because I got the opportunity to play one of these games myself.


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  21. Actually the guys you mentioned don't burn PS2 games with normal desktop computers. They probably have some machine which mass poduce these stuffs. Like a DVD-R but burning at mybe 8 DVDs/time. I know for a fact since I saw it being advertised here, an 8 slot DVD-R.
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    In regards to ADAM.

    You CAN play backups of ps1 games on a unmodded ps2. All you need is a PS2 GameShark.

    as for another person... the easy way you can tell if a ps2 game is cd or dvd format is by going by this- Silver bottom = DVD purple/bluish bottom= CD

    for making backups of a ps1 game, clonecd is good, i prefer CDRWIN, and the game cannot be bigger than 650 megs.... if it is bigger than that, then you will need a mod chip, but if its under, all you need is the Game Shark, preferibly over the version 1.1

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    Also, as a side note, ps2 games can also definately be backed up, and yes with your computer. CD format ps2 games can be backed up in 10 minutes or so, and DVD format ps2 games, well, it requires a long process, and not for the week minded. I have successfully backed up TMB, Spiderman, Star Wars Racer Revenge, Legends Of Wrestling. And 30 or so ps1 games... both psx and ps2 games can be played without a mod chip, but a game shark will be needed.

    Programs to use are like Cdrwin, CloneCD, Hex Workshop, Universal patches, Dummy Filemaker, Kit Builders. and so on.
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  24. Although it will appeal to some, I don't consider the requirement of using a Gameshark a particularly elegant solution. Similarly with all the various swap tricks. In any case, you cannot play a copied PSX game without some sort of add-on/modification device.

    A "mod-chip" once installed gives the best functionality (as far as like the original). You only need to put the game into the drive as per normal and it will play. The disadvantage, of course, the installation requires opening up your machine and definitely voiding yor warranty.

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    vitualis, with all do respect, i would have to agree with you on some terms... Of course the swap method isnt the best alternative to playing backups, however, it is the cheapest and allows you to keep your warranty, and as a side note, like i stated before... I have an UNmodded version 4 ps2, and i have and do play my psx (ps1) backup games with absolutely no problem. As do i Ps2 games.. But then i agree that mod chips (i.e. Messiah) are the better way to go, saves time but it does come with a price, many other problems can occur if chip is installed incorrectly, and your pretty much screwed.
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  26. all I can say on this topic is Thank god for Paradox hehehe

    They ruled the Amiga scene and they continue to roll over anything in their way.
    The Hellsing family will purify this world...
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    i have a question for fatbat .this machine that you were talking about,i haven't seen it but i am assuming that even if it is a way to produce them in mass,it still doesn't remove the copy protection,does it?


    and for nemesyssGT i wanted to ask you to send me,if you could ,a list of the software that you use to back up your games and the process that you use

    i recently got max payne and grand theft auto 3 and as you may know,they are not the cheapest games around.

    thanks!
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  28. Is there anychance of anyone doing a walkthrough on how to back up PS2 games???I know its illegal but so is copying vcd's and DVD's, so theres no differance really........

    any chance then Sefy???............
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  29. Originally Posted by Flox
    Is there anychance of anyone doing a walkthrough on how to back up PS2 games???I know its illegal but so is copying vcd's and DVD's, so theres no differance really........

    any chance then Sefy???............
    It is not illegal to back up games that you own. If it were illegel you would not be allowed to discuss it on this forum. What is illegal is backing up games that you do not own, such as rentals or borrowed copies, discussions on this would not be tolerated and the thread would be closed.
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  30. Flox, I'll give you the same answer to those who ask me to add DVD to DVDR
    to the guide: I Can't do what I can't test and verify myself

    I Don't have a PS2 (never will, I hate Sony) and I don't have access to the
    games, so I can't try copying and checking if the copy works, although I do
    have a program called PSXCOPY which is specificly for copying PS Games.
    Email me for faster replies!

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