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    I realize this is not the correct forum for this request, but perhaps someone can help/direct me.

    I have been copying DVDs for a while using DVD Fab Decrypter; or DVD Decrypter, DVD Shrink, etc, etc and burning with Sonic. All good results.

    My son has bought a PS2, and wants to copy his new EA Sports Cricket 2007 (It is a DVD). I have tried Alcohol 120% as well as DVD Decrypter, with no success.

    We can't put a chip in the Playstation, as the PS is still under guarantee.

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    The ONLY way to play PS2 Backups is to either put in a modchip, use a bootdisc or some other mod or exploit.

    You can not just drop a backup of a PS2 game into a unmodded PS2 and expect it to play, it is not even close to the same as backing up and playing a movie dvd.

    But to backup PS2 game's i've always just used DVD Decrypter, ISO Read, ISO Write.
    But then all my PS2's are modded in one way or another to be able to play my BU's.
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  3. This has been asked in the forum for ten years.

    They are not copy protected if you try to copy, so I don't know why you say they are.

    Only show copy protection when you put your copy in the ps2.

    Get a swap magic if you don't want to mod your machine.

    Use -r write at 4x.
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    "Only show copy protection when you put your copy in the ps2.

    Get a swap magic if you don't want to mod your machine.

    Use -r write at 4x.[/quote]

    Thanks for the reply.

    as I've said, I cannot mod the machine.

    Sorry for the ignorance, but what does "a swop magic" means? And I suppose when I copy I need to use -r DVD discs. I normally use +r
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    Noahtuck says "The ONLY way to play PS2 Backups is to either put in a modchip, use a bootdisc or some other mod or exploit. "

    Thanks.

    Can you explain how one can create a bootdisc? sorry, I'm a bit of a newbie in this!!!

    (I know how to copy and write with DVD Decrypter, and will use that easily to copy the DVD, its yhe playing in the ps2 thats a problem!!)
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    Try a Google search for 'swap magic'
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    will look what google can show me
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    My impression is that one needs to buy Swap Magic and will then be able to plat copied discs? Is that right?

    Any free alternative options?

    There should surely be a way to copy the original disc and then play it on ps2 or is that wishful thinking??

    I will be away for the next week, but will check the forum if Im able to.

    Thanks for all the replies
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    Just buy the games.

    What you have asked for does not exist, the "free" and "mod-free".
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  10. They made the PS2 to not play copies of games. If they had wanted to they could have made the drive not even read copied discs instead of just erroring out.

    They make license money on every disc sold. Why would they short circuit that.
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    Originally Posted by handyguy
    They are not copy protected if you try to copy, so I don't know why you say they are.
    Well i still can't find where anyone said they were copy protected before your post.... but in a sense they are copy protected, otherwise you could just make a copy and drop it in and play with no mods like you do a dvd video 8)

    Originally Posted by avz10
    And I suppose when I copy I need to use -r DVD discs. I normally use +r
    Everyone say's something diff. but i have found through my many PS2's, from my old as dirt fat PS2 through one of my newest slim PS2's i have always had the best result's with ZERO issues using Verbatim +R's bitset to DVD-ROM, although i never really had a probelm using -R's or +R's straight up unless they were a cheaper brand & have had some that refused to read after time, but have never had that problem when bitsetting +R's.
    But QUALITY media is a must as it is with anything.

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    Can you explain how one can create a bootdisc? sorry, I'm a bit of a newbie in this!!!
    You can not create a "bootdisc", swapmagic is a bootdisc. They are pressed disc's just as an original PS2 game disc is.

    Originally Posted by avz10
    My impression is that one needs to buy Swap Magic and will then be able to plat copied discs? Is that right?
    Yes.

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    There should surely be a way to copy the original disc and then play it on ps2 or is that wishful thinking??
    Sure you can, modchip the console, buy the swapmagic bootdisc or use some other exploit.

    Basically in the simplest terms, original PS2 games have a "security code" or "information" on them that can not be copied via normal "burning" or copying.
    When you BU a PS2 game and put it in your PS2, the PS2 looks for this info to boot the game, since it is not there the console will not boot the BU disc, you're done.

    A Modchip tell's the PS2 that this code is there, even when it is not, then the PS2 boot's your BU. You can just drop in a BU and play as you would with the original.

    A swapmagic boot disc is a pressed disc, as an original PS2 game disc, with this information on it & slightly modded, the PS2 reads this disc which tells the PS2 it is a PS2 game disc, then stop's spinning with a load screen, you take the bootdisc out, place in the BU disc, hit X and the BU load's as an original game would.
    But even with boot disc there are certain non invasive mods you must do to yourt PS2 depending on what version you have, flip top or tray version.

    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Just buy the games.
    Now you're not suggesting someone is doing something illegal are you
    Because since my grandson was 4, he is now 6, and want's to play the PS2 i sure the hell aint gonna let him use my original $40-$60 disc's to OOP's.... i did not mean to step on it, or scratch it, or.....

    Just about a month ago, my oldest son's 18 year old friend was playing ViceCity in his room, when i went to play it, it would not load... i looked at it, had a big scratch across it....

    Good thing it was my BACKUP!!!!!!!! went downstairs, popped the original in my pc... 30 minutes later i had a brand new and fully functional BACKUP!!!
    Thank god it only cost me 25 CENTS instead of another $40-60!!!!!!!!!!

    Cause some head's woulda surely rolled!!!!!!!
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    Six-year-olds have no business operating a CD/DVD by themselves anyway, nor should a child spend alone time playing a game. Play with him. If he needs alone activity, give him a color book or a book to read with dinosaur pictures.

    Putting a child alone in front of a game leads to tomorrow's losers.
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    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Six-year-olds have no business operating a CD/DVD by themselves anyway, nor should a child spend alone time playing a game. Play with him. If he needs alone activity, give him a color book or a book to read with dinosaur pictures.

    Putting a child alone in front of a game leads to tomorrow's losers.
    Uh oh.... parenting lessons from the smurf
    Not that it's really any of your business or concern, i do a lot more than that with him 8)
    And he feel's like he's done something really good when he can go to the rack and pick out what game he want's to play and can load it up all by himself, so a few minutes and a 25 cent disc is not a problem...
    Good dodge of the point though...


    So what's society's fault for all the loser's before video games ?
    Now are we gonna go after all the people who put dvd players in their kids room so they can watch a children's movie with their friend's

    Now you sound like those fanatics that blame violent games & movies for murder, porn for rape and child molestation, wonder what was the cause of all these thing's 500 years ago ?

    Yeah.. good thing i was watching the 18 year old like a hawk
    And i did not have to try to get $40 bucks outta him for a new game!!

    The point is, don't just assume someone is doing something illegal there are VERY valid points for backing up games just like MOVIES!!!!!!

    I am 42, i have CD's that are 15 years old and look like the day they were bought and even I have had an occasional mishap with video game disc's....
    Shit happens no matter HOW careful you are!!!
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    I didn`t realise this was a parenting advice forum , tut .
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    Not parenting, not video and going off topic. Moving it to OT.
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    Thanks for all that.

    I also like to just to keep the original packed away, unless someone scratches it. My son is 12 and surely he can play on his own!!

    Just to summorise then: If I want to play games, I can copy them with whatever means, but need a boot disc like swap magic, that one needs to buy. It is not possible to make /copy a boot disc from somewhere? (Sitting in South Africa!0
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    Dont forget you also have to make the ps2 think the tray has never opened with a flip top, slide card or other device when you use the swap magic disks
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    Originally Posted by Noahtuck
    Now you sound like those fanatics that blame violent games & movies for murder, porn for rape and child molestation, wonder what was the cause of all these thing's 500 years ago ?!
    No, not at all. 8)
    But I do find they have turned from entertainment to vice. It's now one more way to get societal losers. They can be abused and addictive (psychologically, not chemically).

    I never actually suggest anything illegal. Just buy more if you mess up the first one AND ARE UNWILLING to pay for the equipment or learn the techniques for making your backups.

    Backup those valuable discs until the cows come home. My point was that it cannot be done without some learning, and without buying some stuff to do it. It's not free and it requires some degree of effort.
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  19. Not to mention that it has to be better for the child to sit in a living room playing a game than getting out in the outdoors and interacting with others.

    Oops, sarcasm is leaking out again.
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    So I suppose the bottom line is that one cannot backup your own game and use that one in stead of the original.

    I cannot put a chip in my son's machine and this whole boot disc story does not really make sense??

    So I suppose it cannot really be done?
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    Not easily, no. It requires some degree of understanding of what's going on, and it often requires some degree of tampering with the devices at hand.

    If your son is too young to understand disc swapping, and you're unwilling to alter the machine, all you can do is teach him to be careful with discs, and buy new ones if he breaks the old ones.
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    If you need some help installing a chip or swap disk or boot disk thing I know someone that can help you.

    A playstation costs $129 in the US which is about the price of 3-4 brand new games if you scratch that many games (a if you try to reapir the disk and it doesnt work) you have to rebuy the games if you chip it you loose your 90 day warranty if a chip is properly put in they do not explode one day or cause other problems
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