FLASK to NERO? No Way !!!

[rjackson]

Can anyone tell me that after converting a movie to flask...which seemed to work fine...it will NOT burn to Nero on a 80 min CD?

It tells me that there is NOT enough space and to insert a bigger medium!!!???

80 minutes is max...isn't it? ANd why would it NOT 'scrunch' my data on this disk? Why would it NOT ask for another disk IF this one was filled?
Is there anything I can do?

Thanks for the help.

[crahak]

Ok, what did you convert it to with flask? What files you got? How big? How did you try to burn it? If you answer, we'll be able to help

[rjackson]

trying to burn Animal house, 1 hour 40 minutes, on a CD. The CD is an 80 minute CD but I'm still getting the error that there is NOT enough space available. Why???

It's an MPG file and should be more than enough to work. I have tried this before with Launch and it works. But was told that FLASK gives a better picture but takes longer. Is this true?

[vitualis]

Assuming that you are making a standard VCD, of course it isn't going to work.

An 80min CD holds about 80min of video as a standard VCD. If your movie is longer than that, then you will have to cut your video into two parts.

Nero isn't going to automagically do it for you either. You will have to cut it yourself. You are attributing features that don't (and IMHO shouldn't) exist onto these programs...

For a VCD, approximate 10 Mb per minute.

Regards.

[rjackson]

Vitualis.

Then I must have used DVDx to do it before. Because I copied the SAME movie and it DID put it on an 80 minute CD. Yes, a few things WERE cut out, but it DID put it on the disk.

Launcher DVDx must be able to 'cut' the movie up for you to put the entire thing on 1 CD, while FLASK does NOT do it for you. I converted the moving using FLASK, and thus the result I got. I will now try the same thing...5 to 6 hours to see if my point is true, with DVDx and see if it WILL go on 1 disk.

[rjackson]

Sorry...don't mean to be nasty here...just trying to learn a few things and see what works best.

I really do appreciate all feedback.

[rjackson]

vitualis.

Just curious, if your using FLASK and am burning CD's...you must not be copying movies over IF the disks are only good for 80 minutes. Are you doing this are standard VCD?

[vitualis]

If that's the case, the DVDx must have automatically used a lower bitrate to fit it onto one disc. That is, it made an XVCD. If you didn't even know that, then that's pretty bad as DVDx has made a non-compliant disc without telling you.

With FlaskMPEG, I only make standard VCDs. If a movie is longer than 80 minutes, then I cut the MPEG in two halves (usually at a chapter point) and put it onto two discs. I use VCDImager to recreate the menus on the original DVD onto the VCD(s) and to author entrypoint chapters as well.

The advantage of making standard VCDs is that they play on EVERYTHING.

BTW, you can get 90min and 99min CD-Rs which hold the same numerical number of minutes of video on a VCD (as long as it is compliant). 90 minute CDs are fairly well supported. 99min CDs are less so.

Regards.

[rjackson]

Vitualis...

I hate to disagree with you but VCD's DO NOT play with ALL DVD players. I have run into several, newer models, that DO NOT handle this type of media.

Make sure you buy one that does...I suggest trying it out at the location that's selling them if they let you. I had NO problem doing this at Ultimate Electronics.

[vitualis]

I hope you realise that you're not telling me anything that I don't know... In fact, I've given this very advice at least a hundred times on the forums...

Close to 100% of DVD players on the market (bar the new Apex machines) are designed to be VCD compatible. Not all are CD-R/W compatible but that is a completely separate issue. You will be hard pressed to find a machine (bar the new Apexes) that won't play a professional pressed VCD.

If you want to learn more about what a VCD is and how to author menus, chapters, etc.:
http://www.vcdhelp.com/vcd
http://www.michaeltam.com

Regards.

[rjackson]

Vitualis.

I'm sorry if I offended you on your apparent 'high status' here on these forums, but from several DVD players I saw functioning, they DID NOT play VCD's. The manager of the store even told me that and put in a disk to prove it! Besides, the description at the bottom of the DVD players mentioned nothing about play VCD.

An example....I bought a General Electric DVD player (yes, they do make them) about 6 months ago AND IT DID NOT PLAY VCD's.

Yes, you may know a lot about what's going on HERE, but there are many machines out THERE that prove you wrong.

[vitualis]

You have not offended me in the slightest. I'm slightly amused at your combative posts, however. If you want to learn about the various formats, I suggest that you read the guides and articles on this site and use the forum search function.

However, you can believe what you want. That doesn't really change any of the facts, however. If you find me a DVD player (again, bar the new Apexes) that cannot play a pressed VCD that will be news to me.

Once again, CD-R and CD-RW compatibility is a separate ability. It has nothing to do with VCD compatibility. Lack of CD-R/W compatibility means that you can't play back ANY homemade disc. It is irrelevant what the format is in then. For those players that can actually read a CD-R disc, VCD compatibility is near universal. If it can't play back a standard VCD2.0 disc properly, it isn't going to play back anything else like SVCD or CVD either.

As stated before, the only reported anomaly to this is the new Apex players that have specifically dropped VCD support to save from paying Philips the necessary VCD licensing fees. These players still apparently play SVCD.

Regards.

[rjackson]

Whatever .................

[vitualis]

Yes, whatever indeed... I can never understand why people bother posting a question when they don't want to hear the answer.

Damn waste of time for everyone concerned.

Regards.

[rjackson]

OH, NO!

That's NOT it at all. Oh, my gosh, I just wish I knew everything about everything there is to know. BUT I guess being a Moderator (whatever in the hell that is), your suppose to know everything and tell them what the right answer is.............us idiots don't know anything and leave it up to you guys to tell us how stupid we are.

Your right, it sure has been a waste of time.

[vitualis]

There is nothing stupid about asking a question. There is something pretty stupid when you ask one but don't want to hear the answer. I have given you the methods you need to make a VCD and referenced the appropriate links for YOUR learning. If you still aren't savvy, your question:

80 minutes is max...isn't it? ANd why would it NOT 'scrunch' my data on this disk? Why would it NOT ask for another disk IF this one was filled?

...showed that you still had a lot to learn about what a VCD is.

As for what a "moderator" is, I suggest that you read the forum FAQ before spouting any more of you nonsense.

Regards.

[rjackson]

Seems like to me you need to LEARN MORE ABOUT LIFE AND HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE. I may not know a lot about VCD's, but I sure know a hell of a lot about mankind. Try learning it.

Maybe you can take a class and find something else to do besides cutting down people all day who 'DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING LIKE YOU DO."

Your time will come buddy.

[vitualis]

I think my record on VCDHelp speaks for itself as do my posts in this thread.

Time for YOU perhaps to lose the attitude.

If you think that I'm "cutting you down" then I feel sorry you feel that way. As one of the moderators here, I feel that information on the forums should be as factually correct as possible. If you can't handle that then that is really not my problem. I for one think that it's great when someone points out that something I think to be correct turns out to be wrong. It's a way of LEARNING.



Regards.

[rjackson]

Yes, your Majesty, whatever you say Sir Moderator.

You right! I DO have a problem with that and your right, it's NOT your problem.....it's everyones out there "That knows everything!"