Picture noisy with CCE

[leon.biggel]

I noticed that when using CCE as encoder, this gives me a noisy picture.
It reminds me at those days when I used the old vcr to play movies.
Tmpeg seems to produce more sharp and less noisy picture, but more blocks in fast movements or fire / water.
Has someone else had thesame experiance or am I doing things wrong ?
I use CCE 2.62 (CCE 2.5 gives less quality) with the newest DVD2SVCD.
And I use Tmpeg 2.58.

[baker]

hmmm

This is intrestng.

Oh wait by noise do you mean it looks like mosquitoes around objects.

Try a complex-flat setting of 25.

Baker

[leon.biggel]

When I make a SVCD (bitrate 300-2450, 480x576) CCE seems to take data from the easy parts in the picture and add them to the complex parts. The result is that the complex parts have no blocks around it, but the still / easy parts in the picture get more noisy. With Tmpeg the picture stays sharp all the time, but sometimes the complex parts have the blocks around it.

[baker]

what did I just say.

change the settings to 25 or 30, maybe even 40

Baker

[macleod]

As baker mentioned, change the setting. What is the DVD source you are ripping from? With DVD2SVCD, I get perfect backups EXCEPT when the original source was an old cartoon OR old movie (pre 1970). What I've learned is to change the settings that Baker mentioned for the source you are dealing with and that will significantly reduce eliminate noise around the picture (sometimes, better yet, they look better as a VCD instead of a CVD.

[snowmoon]

My personal experience is that with avisynth filtering and reducing that image complexity value to 5-10 works great for SVCD bitrates and resolutions.

Avisynth pre-filtering

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/
http://forum.doom9.org/

If your source is noisy you should attempt to remove some of the noise as you are encoding to improve quality and reduce size. Just be careful the filtering beast, as going to far with make thinks worse again.

[leon.biggel]

Oke, I will change the Image Priority setting and see what the result is.
I will let you know. I thought this setting was to increase the amount of bits allocated only to complex parts (as CCE says in their help file). Now I have read in another forum that this will increase the overall bitrate allocated also to still parts. I think this will work, thanx .