SmartRipper slow speed read times

[zygot]

got a t-birb 1333 aopen 12X DVD-1240 this is my first
rip attempt is it normal to read at 3.5X
i am ripping the matrix and it is taking about 15mins
is that normal????
any help would be great

[ktnwin]

It's not bad but not optimum I would say. You should expect DVD read speed starting from 3X going up to 9 or 10X.

What kind of hard disk (for capture) do you have?

Have you cleaned the disc before ripping?

I got T-bird 1.2GHz, 12X DVD-ROM, UDMA-100 HDD,
2 hour movie rip took only 5min30sec.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: ktnwin on 2001-07-24 09:25:37 ]</font>

[zygot]

got a deskstar ibm 60gig (kick arse hd)running on raid
motherboard abit kt7a Raid
the system rocks, i dont think my slow times are related
to that, maybe its just the dvd rom

[ktnwin]

It could be the DVD disc itself. Not all DVD discs are ripped at optimum speed I found out.
Yes, 15min could be normal. I have seen ripping times ranging from 5 min to 20 min depending on the movie.

[AntnyMD]

I cant see why 15 minutes to rip a DVD is a problem.

[hitechjunkie]

i sorta agree with AntnyMD. a 15 minute rip is nothing to fret about, unless SmartRipper indicates you max out at 3.5X on ALL of your rips! since this is your first rip attempt, i wouldn't worry too much though. different DVDs will net you different rip speeds, based on how the VOB files are laid out on the disc (inner tracks vs. outer tracks), so keep ripping...

[SingSing]

IF I ripped the DVD in win98, Smartrip said it run at 6x.
If I ripped the DVD in w2k, Smart rip said it run at 3.5x.
I switched on all the DMA fro all these rips.
I prefered w2k, and this is a problem, and wonder what happened ?

[homerpez]

Mine only runs at 1.5x speed, newest VIA chipset drivers (I think) DMA should be enabled (at least PowerDVD says so), 256MB RAM, 1 Ghz processor...

On Smartripper, I notice that the more things you have it do (Macrovision Removal, Decoding, Region Patching) the slower it goes. Makes sense.

I wouldn't know how to tweak this, but I don't really think it's necessary... I can wait 1/2 an hour for it to rip while I eat dinner

[hitechjunkie]

my 6X DVD-ROM drive on my AMD 350mhz machine, starts out at about 2.5X and averages 5.6X toward the end, with 6.0X peaks, so i doubt that it is a function of a machines CPU speed. it is probably based more on the OS' memory management (DMA) and the max thruput on the IDE bus (33 vs 66)...

[homerpez]

So maybe my drive is only a DMA-33? Would that explain it?

[AntnyMD]

It could also have something to do with how the software uses your processor to complete its tasks. I can rip a movie with macrovision disabled, region patching, removing certain audio tracks and all subtitles, and remapping audio to different places in the final vob, and a 2 hour movie still takes 15 minutes to rip.

Put the same disc in and use cladDVD, and only enable macrovision removal, and the damn thing takes an hour to rip, no joke.

[homerpez]

I agree there...

Without Macrovision disable, decoding, etc. (all of which are necessary steps to encode), it rips a great deal faster than that, so it's definitely the decoding process slowing it down...

But I don't think 1/2 an hour is all that painful... after all, the way I encode takes 12 hours per movie in TMPGEnc... so no biggie for me

[pcgamez]

system:
\
CL 10x DVD
ATA-100 HD's (7200 RPM)
1.35GHZ Thunderbird
256MB RAM

speeds between 1.0 to 1.4x max!

[zygot]

I figured it out eventually, all I had to do was enable
dma for the dvd and presto reads at about 7X now

[hanibal02]

Intesting.
i have a 1gig p3
dell 4100 with 12x dvd
ultra ATA100
7200 40gig Maxtor
256 ram
and it always rips at 1.3. ill try that when i get home tonight.

My encoding with TMP takes about 12 to 15 hrs. Rips take about 20 minutes with SmartRipper.

I'm okay with the speed but was always curious about the slow read speed of the DVD.

Thanks for the tip.

[nfl2k2]

I got a 12x dvd rom with 1gighz amd. I tried ripping goldeneye and it only ripped at 1.7x.. then today it was going over 10x on a different movie, they're very unpredictable.

[ktnwin]

Yes, ripping time is very unpredictable depending on the disc itself.
Just make sure the disc is clean before ripping it.
Anyway, if you have a few discs that rip at top speed then your setup is OK. If all of them rip at slow speed then there is something to look for.

[NeWcS]

You call 15min. Slow??? Can anyone tell me why it took me 45min. to rip Young Guns II?
Duron800mhz
256mb pc133
15gb Maxtor
10x Afreey DVD


Any help would be cool. Thanx!!!

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: NeWcS on 2001-08-18 18:00:58 ]</font>

[vitualis]

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On 2001-08-14 11:32:32, AntnyMD wrote:
It could also have something to do with how the software uses your processor to complete its tasks. I can rip a movie with macrovision disabled, region patching, removing certain audio tracks and all subtitles, and remapping audio to different places in the final vob, and a 2 hour movie still takes 15 minutes to rip.

Put the same disc in and use cladDVD, and only enable macrovision removal, and the damn thing takes an hour to rip, no joke.
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This is a curious thing. I can enable and disable macrovision with SmartRipper and it doesn't affect ripping speed at all -- and theorectically, it shouldn't. With macrovision removal enabled, all the proggy is doing is changing the flag (a few bytes) that tells the DVD player to include the macrovision signal on playback.

On my 8x Hitachi DVD-ROM drive (PIII 500), I can usually rip a DVD on average at 4.5x (usually varing from 3x-6x).

Regards.

[alburrows]

I too am getting a very slow read when ripping DVD's with Smartripper.
When ripping X-Men (105mins) last night Smartripper took 45mins and DVD2AVI took over 50mins.
I am at a loss to explain this as I am running an Athlon 1.2 ghz, 266fsb, 512mb DDR Ram, 40Gb 5400rpm 100ata Fugitsu, and Pioneer 106s 16X DVD drive. When reading I am getting an indicated 6X or 7X read but still it takes soooo long.
DMA is enabled on all drives IDE and DVD.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Alistair.

[burk]

i have 1.4 athlon, 256mb pc 133, kt7araid abit board and pioneer 116 16x dvd. the fastest speed ive encountered so far is a shitty 1.4x. dma is enabled. i set it to auto in the bios, is that right? i think the pioneer is dma33, and my hard drive is an ibm 7200 ata 100, also set to auto in the bios. ive tried quite a few different dvd's and all are between 0.7 and 1.4x. anyone know what it could be

thanks in advance.

p.s. otherwise the system runs very fast as it should! oh and i got the latest bios and via 4 in 1 drivers.

[Shifthrow]

I have an abit kt7 and I was getting 1x ripping speeds, then I flashed my bios and made sure dma was working and got much faster ripping speeds. One of my problems was I didn't have dma enabled under the 'system' properties under 'disk drives'. Flashing my bios was the main difference in my ripping speeds.

[ktnwin]

I got slow rip time at first (T-Bird 1.2GHz) until I update the drivers with 4 in 1 (for VIA chipset). After that, it rips at very high speed. VIA chipset drive is one of the known culprit.
Some of the discs have scratches and their rip time is pretty slow.

[burk]

i got the very latest chipset drivers and the max speed has gone from 1.4 to 2.2 this is great, but how do all these other people get these huge ripping speeds lol ??????????

either someone is telling porkies or ive got me a problem........

help please

its ripping at 2,864 kb sec.....i thought dma 33 was near that figure? and its a dma33 drive!


help help help help

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: burk on 2001-08-21 07:12:49 ]</font>

[burk]

i just got 2,989 kb sec but still at 2.1

hmmmmmmmm

[Riot_Inc]

i can only rip at 1.9-2.0 max, and DMA is enabled in all the drives....i have a toshiba dvd player and all the dma settings in the bios seem to be right, so i don't really know what to do....

Holy shit, right now i'm ripping an Eminem DVD... (music video, Stan) and it got up to 9.0! And the only difference is that it's not encrypted. no key, so that's the only difference...
damn


IT finished at 12.5@!!!
yay

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Riot_Inc on 2001-08-20 21:17:28 ]</font>

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Riot_Inc on 2001-08-20 21:19:23 ]</font>

[zygot]

since I started this post a couple of weeks ago, I have made
many changes to the configurations of the drives, bios settings and windows settings to improve rip speeds. I can
confidentley say ripping is not an exact science, I have (as stated by ktnwin in this post) updated the VIA chipset drivers. This has made an increase in speed also enabling DMA in windows properties has also increased speeds. Different DVD titles yield different ripping speed results. Another increase came about in the bios settings, my dvd drive was set up on secondary master and the PIO MODE was set to AUTO. I changed this to MODE 4, this gave me the biggest increase in ripping speed, so going from about 2.5X to 7.5-8.0X is a fair increase. Hope this helps some of you out there.

[Riot_Inc]

alright, i'll give that a shot...again.

[Riot_Inc]

*bump for the people that have the same question*