Help -I want MPEG-2's with 48kHz PCM out of TMPGEnc

[yamato72]

This should be so simple it wouldn't belong under advanced, but it isn't. I'm capping 720X480, 48kHz PCM audio with Huffyuv from my Hi8 home movies. Converting with TMPGenc to mpeg-2 to burn to DVD-R. I want full DVD-spec compliance.

TMPGenc of course wants to encode my audio to mp2. I want to stick with PCM so that my crummy Sonic MyDVD doesn't have to re-encode.

The solution seems to be the use of an external audio encoder in TMPGEnc, but which one? Toolame? SSRC? Or do I want to encode the video first, then "simple multiplex-in" a wav of my source? Anybody done this? Again, this should be so simple, but no one seems to be doing it. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I've searched the forums but just get tidbits here and there. Anyone got the whole story?

[Tommyknocker]

The surest way I would do it would be the remux way you describe. Use Virtual Dub in Audio-->Full Processing mode to the use Audio->
Conversion to select your bitrate. Also check Audio--Compression to make sure PCM is being used. Select File-->Save Wave.

Go to TMPGEnc and remux like you planned, and voilá!

[bugster]

Or another way is this.

Open your AVI in virtualdub, select audio->direct stream copy, file-> save as wav. You now have a file containing just your 48Khz PCM audio.

In Tmpgenc, set everything up as usual but before hitting encode, select the video only radio button down at the bottom there. It will change the extension of your output file to .m2v. Leave it like that.

When the encode is finished, use MyDvd and provide both the Video (.m2v) and audio ).wav) files into the 'assets' section. Select your video as the movie and 'drag and drop' the audio file onto it. Author as normal.

Now MyDvd should not have to re-encode the audio and it should be quicker.

I am not sure if the previously mentioned solution will work, but even if it does, MyDvd will have to de-mux the file to audio and video. This solution removes that step also. Encoding to video only in TmpGenc is a bit quicker too.

Hope this helps

[yamato72]

Thanks for the quick response, guys. I was hoping it would be this simple. Bugster, I'd read on the forum that Spruceup could do what you mentioned with seperate audio and video, but never saw a mention about MyDVD. This is very cool. Now if MyDVD didn't suck so bad in general (menu creation and editing mostly) I wouldn't have to shop for a replacement.

Thanks again!

[yamato72]

Results of my first attempt, and second, and third, fourth, fifth... you get the picture.

Tommyknocker, TMPGEnc won't allow me to mux in a wav after encoding a file. It only supports mp2 files, etc.

But I can load in an m2v and wav file (like bugster suggested) into MyDVD and it'll accept it. But here's the rub: MyDVD is still transcoding, for #*@% sake!

I have moderated myself and posted my new plea for help in the authoring forum here:


http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118146&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

Please check it out and help me out if you can.

Thanks guys!

[Tommyknocker]

When you tried to remux with TMPGEnc, did you use the MPEG Tools... or the main program screen. Only one will accept wave files.

[yamato72]

Tommyknocker, I tried mpeg tools....

[Tommyknocker]

I was being facetious. You try the main program window to accept wave files for multiplexing.

[DJRumpy]

Yamato, don't use the MPEG TOOLS section for this. Use the 'Audio Source' browse button to select your WAV file, and the 'Video Source' button to select your M2V file. Both are on the main TMPGenc screen, not on the file menus.

[afwasborstel]

I was being facetious. You try the main program window to accept wave files for multiplexing.

this will result in no audio...

Just do the things with virtualdub as described....

Download Be Sweet or what ever program you like to do your audio encoding...

encode it to mp2 or mp3

encode your movie...

demux it....
remux it with your selfmade mp2 or mp3...
et voila....

48 khz audio....wit your own selected bitrate...

There are one thousand ways of doing the 48 khz trick...
this is just one of them....the working one...

[DJRumpy]

afwasborstel, we're talking about the finished WAV product, and the M2V. The 'Encode Your Movie' step. Read the post, he doesn't want to re-encode into MP2, or MP3. We were answering his question:

Tommyknocker, TMPGEnc won't allow me to mux in a wav after encoding a file. It only supports mp2 files, etc.

The way around this is to use the Main program screen, and not the MPEG Tools section.

[afwasborstel]

Still....it wil result in no audio....

TMPGenc doesn't do 48 khz audio...

[DJRumpy]

Of course it does, hence the options and built in templates for DVD Video. Look in the SETTINGS, under audio.

[yamato72]

"PCM" seems to be the stumbling block here -you need PCM audio for a compliant DVD. You certainly can do 48kHz layer II....

[DJRumpy]

Then your all set Yamoto. Use Virtual dub to SAVE AS WAV, and consider your audio portion complete. Use the Video Source button to find your AVI. Select 'STREAM TYPE', and set it to Video Only. You will get a resulting M2V file (video only mpeg).

You now have 1 M2V (video), and 1 WAV (audio). This is what you want for your MyDVD correct?

[bewley]

I can't add much on the PCM problem, but I would like to add this point to the conversation:

Why use VDUB to save the WAV file? Simply open the AVI in TMPGEnc as if you were going to encode it and then select File | Output To File > WAV File. It will save the audio in any format you would like without exiting TMPGEnc.

I know it isn't much help on this topic, but it might save a step or two as you try to sort it all out...

[DJRumpy]

No need to change the audio format, as it is already in 48Khz PCM audio. Saving it in VirtualDub only takes about a minute. Changing the format would be adding unecessary work.

[bewley]

You do not have to change the format in TMPGEnc and may save the output file as a 48Khz PCM WAV file. No muss, no fuss, and no extra program.