making a xsvcd 720x480/576 question.

[anth6000]

I changed the Resize setting on dvd2svcd to 720x 480/576, however when I play back the muxed video file I see no improvement over normal svcd's. Is there another seeting I need to mess with to get this to work. Thanks in advance..Cheers, Will

[D_Knife]

If your INCREASING the size of the image - then of course you won't see an imporvement

[anth6000]

D_Knife: Maybe you could be so kind as explain to me or make suggestions on how to do this. I was told to change BicubicResize
to the width of 480 to 720. Under the framesever tab I have changed the Resize to DVD ( 720x480/576) is this not correct? Any help you can give me would greatly be appreciated. Thanks Will

[D_Knife]

Ok - what is your source size?
because you have just typed in the frame size two ways

Since I'm from Australia I'll use 576 as a vertical frame size - change to 480 is your using NTSC

What are you starting with? a dvd rip? or capturing from video?
if your coming from a DVD rip then you should be scaling DOWN to 480x576 this should not change your image quality

If on the other hand your capturing - then you should be either capturing at 480x576 or 704x576 if you can

you should not be scaling up to any other size- you don't gain anything that way.

Let me know if I've got the wrong idea here ok?

[anth6000]

Well I'm using dvd2svcd & it is a dvd rip. Under the Framesever tab is a resize settings which gives you several options (of course you have to be in advanced settings to do this) to Resize to svcd,dvd,cvd,&vcd. I selected "DVD (720x480/576)" this is a preset option and it sais it just like that>"DVD (720x480/576)".I was assuming this would yield better quality,but also it will take up more space using more bits of course but nothing seems to change under the Bitrate tab when I select "DVD (720x480/576)". So, I'm a little stumped. Will

[D_Knife]

Well - your right about the more space bit - but quality isn't going to change much at all.

personally I don't use DVD2SVCD mainly as I don't rip dVD's much - more into the capturing bit myself

In your case I'd stick with 480x576 (or NTSC) and

personally I create CVD's - which are 352x576 anamorphic and let my DVD player auto re-size on playback - this way I get more data onto a disc or the same length video at a higher bitrate.

However read up on this in the guides first before you try CVD

[vadeluma]

Increasing your resolution won't give you a better picture,unless
you increase your bitrate really high. The result of this gives you a very large file. In fact you're making a DVD copy this way.
By the way the bitrates won't change by itself by choosing resolutions.
you have to fill in the bitrates max,min,max average.
The max average will determine your final bitrate. Above these settings you can enter the amount of minites of your source and the amount of cd's
you want to use.

I would suggest to use CVD (352/480) VBR: 4
MAX 2500 MIN 1180 MAX average 2000
If your source is 100 min, you can put this on 2 CD's
Of course this is a example, but these settings give great quality.

[anth6000]

vadeluma: I am trying your suggestions as I write this. What would be your suggestions for max. min. & max. avg. for let's say a 120 to 125 min. movie? Using the size of cvd (352 x 480 )of course. Thanks, Will

[vadeluma]

I always try to keep the max average above 2000,but that means if the movie is 125 minutes you have to use 3 CD's.
You can find out yourself in the bitrate tab. Just fill in the exact minites for example in the 4th line. Let's say your movie is 123 minites
You get BETWEEN 100 and 123, use: 3CD's, CDsize: 800,Bitrate 3045-2430. That means that your max average has to be 2430(NOT HIGHER) to get your movie on 3 CD's.
Now change the value to 2 CD's and your max average has to be 1540
My advice is when you have a movie above 120 minites to use 3 CD's.

Keep in mind that a difference of 120 bitrates between MAX and MAX average is recommended
So you get MAX 2500 MIN 1180 MAX average 2430 for 123 minutes,
however change MAX average to 2380 to hold on to the 120 Bitr. difference

[anth6000]

vadeluma: I'm currenttly doing Pulp Fiction right now with your CVD suggested settings; however I did not change the number of cdr's to be used. I did of course change the min.,max. & max. avg. So I'm not sure how this will turn out. I did the first 7 chapters of Pulp Fiction in 720 x 480 interestingly cce never went into the encoding video mode it just did the initial video capturing mode or whatever it is called. I took the muxed video file and the encoded audio and put this together using tmpg with a vcd template as i do all of my svcd's. I put 37:40 on a 700MB disc the results were excellent. I actually had no idea what I was doing I just did a test. The disc was not fully used up either . From looking at it it looks like about 1/8 of space was still remaining. Is there anything wrong with this procedure? In 720 x 480 mode how many actual minutes can I hold for a 700MB/80min. disc? Thanks very much for your help, I'll be looking forward to seeing the results from the cvd I am making. Will