Re-encodeing Mv2 files, is MissingMpegTools really the best

[earlygrace]

Trying to re-encode a Mv2 Stream to fit a DVD-r, I have read that MissingMpegTools in OSX is my best option but, I would prefer to re-encode in OS9, what are my options for a good quality job? Cleaner 5 does not seem to let me choose a bit/rate and is really slow, or maybe I am just an idiot.

Thanks in advance

[bilestyle]

what kind of machine are you running? there really is no advantage to running os 9 over X.. not a single one, there is one conversion app on 9 and your right its cleaner, not only is it ridiculously overpriced, and 50x slower than mediapipe u need the mpeg charger to change the bitrate, and in my experience the mpeg charger lets u select and control more options, but makes cleaner go even SLOWER, as if it didnt go slow enough. your only other option is astarte m. pack which is no longer made so harder to find. its not much faster than cleaner (if any) so if your machine can support it jump on the X bandwagon cuz 9 SUCKS

[erzimeriah]

you can also use mediapipe to reencode the bitrate of a m2v file and you don't have to even touch missingmpeg tools.

here's how:
[you need to have osx and apple developer tools installed, you also need to have mediapipe 8.7 or 8.7.5 installed] ***make sure when you install mediapipe you do a systemwide install or it won't work right.

• start mediapipe
• "set destination" to folder where you want the output file saved
• add pipe "file browser" and select the file you want to convert
• add pipe "file streamer"
• add pipe "MPEG decoder"
• add pipe "color conversion"
• add pipe "MPEG encoder" and use the configure button to set the attributes.
• in attributes click on the "generate arguments" button. this wiil take you to a window where you can set your new attributes, and it will give you the option of setting a new bitrate here.
• close out this window and start the conversion
• and wait about 8 to 10 hours until it's done.
• you can then import your new m2v file and you audio file into DVDSP and author your new dvd.

hope this works for you. of course you have to be running osx, it really is the best way to go. os 9 is a dinosaur.

[earlygrace]

I re-encoded in PipeLine as your directions say, it produced a file about 3Gb which is good, cause the original is 6gb, but when I add the audio file and build the disk, burn it the audio is way out of sync, like 5 minutes out. What the hell?

[earlygrace]

Now that I look closer the sync in on at the very begining, but after a minute it is way off and get worse and worse, seems that the video is player like it is 1.5x faster the it should be. I much have screwed up the setting is Pipline.

I selected NTSC Video, cause the first time when i selected NTSC Film the frame rate came out as 25fps and DVD studio pro would not import it. But now the frame rate seems to be sped up. what the hell?

[bilestyle]

congradulations you have now run into the same problem ALOT of us have had re-encoding mpeg-2, one of two things could be your culprit, the input frame rate could possibly be 3:2 pulldown which is 23.98 which has caused nothing but problems when re-encoding.. i still personally have found no solution for that problem, the other possible problem you could be experiencing is variable frame rate, potentially the movie you are encoding could have scenes in different frame rates...while trying to re-encode an entire movie at a specific framerate when it has more than one framerate you run into various sync issues.

[earlygrace]

Ok, thanks for the info, I will try to re-encode one more time at a slower frame rate. Does DVD Sudio Pro except a lower fps like: 23.98 or 25, cause I had re-encoded at 25 fps and DVDSP would not let me import it. errrrrr. If it does not work this time I am going to say **** it, and dump the whole thing.

[bilestyle]

unfortunately dvd studio pro will not accept any other frame rates than 29.97 and 25 fps, if you have to use NTSC devices then then you can only burn files with 29.97 and if you have PAL then u can only burn at 25 fps otherwise the dvd will not display properly in your device.

[earlygrace]

Ok, I guess I will not waste my time, but that just pisses me off. What cant they just let us make back-ups easily. I think I will stick to single layer movies, that way I know I will not have to re-sample.

Thanks for all the help.

EarlyGrace

[Ross]

What would happen if you changed the mpeg header to 29.97 or 25 fps? Could you trick DVDSP into accepting it? How to edit header info is on my web page.

[bilestyle]

actually if the frame rate is 25 fps consider yourself lucky, its ALOT easier to re-encode then ANY ntsc format. With 25 fps material you can easier convert it to NTSC in mediapipe. using the following pipes

file browser

file streamer

mpeg decoder

change frame rate
30000:1001
(there is probably a number combo to get a more accurate NTSC configuration, i cant find it here but im sure i can when i get home)

color conversion

deinterlace
(only if the source material is dvd)

mpeg encoder

frame rate NTSC VIDEO

and then u choose the rest of the settings accordingly... if you want vbr chose vbr otherwise uncheck that box and select a setting under bitrate, if you want SVCD then choose SVCD under format, otherwise choose mpeg-2 if u want to reauthor to DVD...and so on...if u need any help or have any questions just ask