Can't capture more then 4 GB with Virtual Dub

[sladezero]

Hey there,

Ok this question is FOR ME now. . I have the FAT32 on WIN XP PRO
and as many of you know this has a 4 GB limit. What I need to know
other then formatting is ........I tried the MULTI-SEGMENT option with
VIRTUAL DUB and it causes an error saying something lilke ACCESS
VIOLATION. Any one know what the deal is with this ??
I can't afford to format and reinstall and I need to DEFINATELY
capture greater then 4 GB of video. I have the LEADTEK WINFAST
TV2000 XP TV tuner card for capturing. Got any clues ???
Thanks in advance for any help given.

[bunyip]

Try capturing with AVI_IO - it does very good segmentation - and VirtualDub can recognise the segments for later filtering if needed.

[Anonymous65]

Have you added a spill drive? If not, the multi-segment capture will not work.

[sladezero]

Hey there,

well see that's the thing. When I add the spill drive that's when I get the
error. The error says something like "access violation". Does the
spill drive need to be a COMPLETELY SEPARATE DRIVE ???
After the error comes up and I close the error box and go back to the
spill drive option it shows all my spill drives as NULL....

Got any CLUES ??

Thanks for the replies.

[Anonymous65]

I capture all my AVI files to C:\work, and I make my spill drive C:\work. That works for me.
(I think you have to have the main capture location the same as the spill drive location??)

[doctor robert]

i'm having the same problem on win98se. i've got a partitioned 120gig drive and a non-partitioned 20 gig drive. both are fat32 drives. i've tried capturing in vdub with many problems. avi io seems like the better program for me. is it possible to get around the 4 gb limit in avi io? i've added the partitions to the drive list in avi. thanks!
s.geddie@verizon.net

[elonohic]

Hi,

The 98SE is using FAT32 to format the hard disk and the largest file size is 4Gig. If you want to caputre file with size larger than 4Gig then you need to use WIN2000 or XP since they are using NTSF to format the hard disk and the largest file size is 3TGig.
Hope this would help.

[SHS]

elonohic that 2TB not 3TB

[Nelson37]

Spill drive can be same or different, doesn't matter.

I remember seeing something a while back, somewhere, that this had to do with Windows Security features and/or a bug and there was some kind of workaround. Try logon as Admin with full rights.

Sorry I don't remember the fix as I've never had this problem. Search here and on Doom9.

[doctor robert]

Elonohic and Nelson 37

thanks for the info! if i upgrade to win 2000 that means i have to re-format my hard drives to get rid of the fat32 system, correct? if so that would suck majorly. please tell me i'm wrong on this.
thanks for all of the help

[lpn1160]

I can tell you this, after installing win2k or xp if you use partition magic 7
you can convert file system formats without loss of data! have done it more than a few times myself. just do an upgrade to 2k/xp instead of a clean install, then convert fat32 to ntfs after with PM7!

[doctor robert]

thanks! that's a HUGE help! i'll do that for sure. i really appreciate you guys helping

[MrPantstm]

The easiest method to overcome the 4gb limit with virtualdub is to simply upgrade to an OS with NTFS (ie 2k or XP). NTFS does not have a 4gb avi file size limit. I use a 20gb NTFS partition to capture. It works beautifully. I can capture 2 1/2 hours worth of video without much of a hiccup. It is a lot simpler to upgrade to NTFS than to deal with spill drives imho. Also in my own case using 2k gave me better support for my capture card so that was another bonus.

Its one of those computer things where once you change to it you wonder why you ever used the previous system before (example dialup to broadband).

[doctor robert]

that's exactly what i'll do then. i'll get win 2000 tomorrow then.
thanks

[elonohic]

Hi

Thank you for remind me the right answer for the NTSF. I think it is better for you all to have the OS installed in a hard disk and have the a seperate hard disk not by partition to store the captured avi or video files.

[Nelson37]

Upgrade is possible, but I would STRONGLY recommend a complete reformat and re-install as major OS upgrades definitely have more problems. That doesn't mean that it doesn't ever work, it means that out of the several dozen I have done a high enough percentage experience difficulty that I refuse to perform upgrades unless the customer specifically signs off that I am not responsible for any problems resulting from such an upgrade. YMMV

[doctor robert]

nelson 37,
i've got my small hd on win98. it's not partitioned, my big hd is. both are fat32. i have partition magic 7.0 but haven't used it. should i try to backup the big drive and re-partition the program after the win2000 upgrade as ntfs?
thanks,
s.geddie@verizon.net

[Nelson37]

I would back them both up, wipe them clean including deleting the partitions, and then install the new OS. Keeping FAT32 on boot drive and NTFS on large HD has some advantages. I have had some successes with Partition Magic but also 2 or 3 complete and total failures which resulted in a complete loss of all data on the drive.

A CLEAN INSTALL of a new OS is ALWAYS preferable.

[MrPantstm]

what I meant by upgrading to win2k/xp I meant doing a complete wipe and reload. Just upgrading the OS and overlaying it with a newer version leads to problems and errors down the road if not the next day.

My setup is this. Take it as you will.

Primary Hdd has OS on a 4gb partition (theres more space on their but its not worth mentioning ).

Secondary Hdd is an 80 gb which I have partitioned as so
20gb - NTFS. Used to capture
20gb - NTFS. Used to Store encoded captures
20gb - FAT32. Used to Backup. No real reason why its FAT32.
20gb - NTFS. Second capture partition.

You could combine the partitions into 40,60 whatever thats just how I have it setup.