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    Hi,

    I am having problems with the RAM format.

    One of the reasons I bought a Panasonic DMR-E20 was because I thought I would be able to edit the RAM discs on my PC and record them back to DVDR with my DVDR/RAM burner

    Unfortunately, no matter how I record RAM on the DMR-E20, it is stored on the RAM disc as one giant 3-4 GB video chunk

    How do I split this up so that I can burn it to a DVDR without losing quality?

    Also, which guide would I use to compress the files to avi so that I can share them in P2P programs?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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    Rename the .vro to .mpg and see which programs will recognize it. (DVD Workshop 1.2 will.)

    Philip might have a better answer than me though, since he has experience with doing this. I don't yet, as my E30 has not yet arrived.
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    Thanks for the reply.

    I tried renaming the file a while ago but virtual dub and tmpgenc wouldn't accept it.

    For some reason, DVDR will not accept files over 1GB If you look at any commercial DVD, you will notice that there aren't any video files over 0.99GB

    Is the DMR-E30 the one withh the 40GB hard drive? I thought that was coming in October. I am definitely going to buy one when they come out.

    Thanks.
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    I tried renaming the file a while ago but virtual dub and tmpgenc wouldn't accept it.

    For some reason, DVDR will not accept files over 1GB If you look at any commercial DVD, you will notice that there aren't any video files over 0.99GB
    That's because DVD Video on DVD-R uses a different format than DVD-RAM or DVD-RW. DVD-RAM/DVD-RW uses DVD-VR on a disc formatted to UDF 2. Try DVD Workshop 1.2. Others have had good luck with this program using .vro files renamed to .mpg.

    Is the DMR-E30 the one withh the 40GB hard drive? I thought that was coming in October. I am definitely going to buy one when they come out.
    No, you're thinking of the DMR-HS2. The DMR-E30 is the direct replacement for the E20. It's much cheaper ($550 online) than the E20 was when it first came out, and adds features like the ability to do flexible recording times without having to use the timer function. It's also much smaller, although it's supposedly not quite as heavy duty as the E20. It's also progressive scan.
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  5. Been using the E20 for about a year now, what I do is use the Panasonic DLF321 DVD-Recorder to copy my VRO file stright to my HD. I use DVD2AVI 1.76 to read the VRO as is (DO NOT RENAME), after that I just use TEMPGEnc with the KVCD Templates and end up a GREAT movie. I have a Digital Cable system and record to the DVD-Ram using the 4 hour mode (352x480). Check www.kvcd.net for additional information on the E20 and templates. I use the KDVD templates (SVCD or DVD Compliant) to creat my DVD-R's, sometime I can get two movies on one DVD-R in a standand DVD format using the KDVD templates. So bottom line check out www.kvcd.net. If you need form information let me know.

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  6. well I bought the DMR-E20 for $499 and the DMR-E10 for $399 edit back and forth all the time with Rams with pin point perfect results then burn to DVD-R, made R rated Rtue lies into a soft PG version so the kids 13-16 could watch it.
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    Thanks for the advice guys.

    It drives me nuts that these things are so cheap now! I paid $780 for mine in January. I knew the price would drop, but I got tired of waiting. Oh well

    Two recorders sounds like a good idea, but if I'm going to spend 2-$300 on video equipment I'd rather have a SVHS or two- I don't have any now.

    Besides, the recorder with the hard drive should solve most of my problems. I'm also done buying generic media so that should help.
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  8. Originally Posted by dafoe
    Thanks for the advice guys.

    It drives me nuts that these things are so cheap now! I paid $780 for mine in January. I knew the price would drop, but I got tired of waiting. Oh well
    Drives you nuts :P HA!, guess how I feel I paid $999.00 for my E-20, also around January

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    Two recorders sounds like a good idea, but if I'm going to spend 2-$300 on video equipment I'd rather have a SVHS or two- I don't have any now.
    You don't have to buy 2 recorders. You just need a player that can play back DVD-RAM (assuming you have DVD-RAM cartridges with removable discs). Such a player would be the Panasonic RP82 for about $200.

    As for SVHS I must say I will almost completely stop using mine once my E30 arrives. I'll only use it to play back standard VHS tapes, and even then only rarely. (My important VHS tapes will be converted to DVD-R.)
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    Hey Kwag,

    If it makes you feel any better, there were people selling these units for $1500 for the first few days after the US release. Within a week or two, the Ebay price was down to around $800.

    Thanks to Eug for the tip on the Ram player. I'll check it out

    I like DVDR, but if you are loaning out videos on VHS you don't have to worry about compatability
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