CCE 2.50 problems! Please look!!!!!

[Boooooommm]

Ok, I have this odd problem with CCE. My souce is a 45 minute long vob file frameserved to CCE by VFApi, but for some reason after the video is done being encoded, I have a different length on the file and I end up with a file that has sync problems. I've tried encoding it twice with the same settings and I get different lengths like 9:10 minutes or 15, it's always different.

I'm tryign to encode an MPEG-1 video file with the Multipass VBR using 1300kbps as average, 300 and min and 3600 max. Does anybody have any possible solution to this odd problem? I'd really appreciate the help

[Boooooommm]

Please help me:

[homerpez]

First, a warning... CCE sometimes does this inexplicably when encoding MPEG-1. So, there might not be a real solution...

But try this, just for curiosity... go into "source range" (double-click on the source file name when you're in settings).

Drag the slider all the way over and you'll see the last frame is 1 less than the "last frame" displayed. Change your "end frame" to match the real length (one less).

Sometimes it will act unpredictably, as it's trying to read "one more" frame than there is.

In all honesty, though, you might just want to try TMPGEnc for MPEG-1. While CCE does well with MPEG-1 when it works, the operative term here is "WHEN IT WORKS".

For MPEG-2, it's much more reliable, for whatever reason.

[Executioner]

That must explain why I can't make a VCD with DVD2SVCD program. CCE will lock up when creating the mvp file (I think thats the file extension). I tried the recover, but the same results. DVD2SVCD has no problems making SVCD's though.

[Boooooommm]

I switched from TMPGEnc to CCE because of the speed + the black color. TMPGEnc doesn't give me true black and that annoys me. Ill try out what you say and see what happens. Also, I noticed that 2.62 doesn't support VBR for MPEG-1 with the standalone version, but the Premiere plug-in does support it. Anybody know a way to make it work on standalone?

[homerpez]

believe it or not, I would stick to using 2.50, not 2.62... I've heard that they actually made the program slower, and it causes more problems than it solves (the -1 frame problem is not one of the fixes, I think).

I'd just use 2.50 and TMPGEnc for audio, done.

Let me know if that fixed anything... but like I said I have never found a 100% solution for this...

[Boooooommm]

This is the first time this happens.... It's converting as we speak. 2 hours left. Should be done pretty soon I'll let you know.

[Boooooommm]

Results: same crap.... I'm trying again, but this time with new video settings. 40 minutes left. I'll let you know if it works now...

[adam]

What results are the same? Are you referring to the lack of true black color? I think you are just setting your color space up incorrectly, in both TMPGenc and CCE.

If you set dvd2avi to tv scale then in CCE set it to 0-255 luminance level.
If you use pc scale then in CCE set it to 16-235.

This should give you true black.

Read this thread for a more detailed explanation,

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=d606d99e65ae9f3058dfe250ee44c53f&threadid=2881...0255+luminance

[Boooooommm]

I'm not gettign "true black" with TMPGEnc, that's why I switched to CCE. So, if there's any way to make TMPGEnc work with the true black, please let me know That will solve lots of my problems.

[Boooooommm]

Forgot to tell you that what I meant by same crap was that CCE still gives me an erroneus length despite of what homeprez suggested. I would like to know though if there's ANY way to set TMPGEnc to encode with 0-255 luminance.

[Boooooommm]

Well, guess what, I found out the problem! Apparently CCE MPEG-1 encoding and 23.976 framerate don't get along. I didn't notice DVD2AVI had Force Film enabled reason why I found suspicious that the film had a 23.976 fps when it really has a 29.97 fps. After that, you shouldn't have a problem

[Boooooommm]

Ok, I was wrong. That's not the solution. Apparently, for some reason, when I rip the thing with Smartripper it gives me this crazy length. But if I use CladDVD XP the stuff works to perfection! So, in other words, Smartripper should be the problem. Reason? Unknown!

[Boooooommm]

Crap, no success yet. I'm starting to think it's either:

1- I'm ripping the movie by chapters
2- It's the movie!

I'm gonna try ripping the whole movie to my HD and then I'll encode. Just in case you're asking yourselves what movie I'm ripping, it's Star Wars: Episode 1.

[wulf109]

If you want true black encode directly from the vob in Tmpeg and you'll get it,don't frame serve.

[adam]

Well then he'll lose %20 of his bitrate since he will be encoding in 29.97fps instead of 23.976fps. This is never a good idea. If you want true black in TMPGenc simply set dvd2avi to tv scale.

Booooooooommm I believe TMPGenc does use 0-255 lumance level but this is only preferable if your source is 16-235. This is how the movie is stored on the vob but you must use tv scale in dvd2avi to preserve this.

[wulf109]

I do use TV scale in DVD2AVI and black still comes out grey.

[Boooooommm]

With or without TV scale on DVD2AVI, I still get grayish black color for black when encoding with TMPGEnc not to mention that I get the grayish black on CCE if I select the TV scale on DVD2AVI. (I use my own method to play movies on my Dreamcast, which I think needs the PC scale to get true black, otherwise it's all grayish in dark scenes.)

Ok, I already gave up on this. CCE still gives me the crazy length for some reason. Only explanation: The movie.

I've tried ripping it with Smart-Ripper, DVD Decrypter, CladDVD XP and even Vstrip and I STILL get the freakingbad length.

I tried all settings possible on DVD2AVI and still nothing. I tried using Avisynth instead of VFAPI and NOTHING!!! What is it with this thing? I'm almost to the point of insanity!!!!! Well, not to far, but I have punched my monitor several times.

One more question. Does anybody know why the Multipass VBR for MPEG-1 was removed on the latest versions of CCE?