Trying to burn 480x272 AVI for use on a 16:9 tv

[Obsidian Ghost]

I have an AVI file that has a resolution of 480x272. The resolution is REALLY great, but it's a bit squished and the people look like they need to be stretched out to look more natural.

Well, my major problem is that while I'm well familiar with converting AVIs to VCD using Virtual Dub and TMPGEnc, I have NO IDEA how to convert this file into a high-resolution mpeg that I will be able to burn to CD-R and watch in natural 16:9 on my widescreen tv.

Can anybody please help me?? This seems like a major enigma; I would prefer to upconvert the resolution to 720x480...but I have no idea what I'm talking about. I basically want to take advantage of the nice resolution of this file and watch it in a natural 16:9 aspect ratio on my widescreen tv using only freeware.

Can it be done?
Thanx a lot!

[Tommyknocker]

Well, if your freeware version of TMPGEnc is not 30 days old yet, you can load it there, select Load from the main program window, choose DVD NTSC template and the resulting file would be 720 X 480.

[KingJohn]

I have an AVI file that has a resolution of 480x272. The resolution is REALLY great, but it's a bit squished and the people look like they need to be stretched out to look more natural.

Well, my major problem is that while I'm well familiar with converting AVIs to VCD using Virtual Dub and TMPGEnc, I have NO IDEA how to convert this file into a high-resolution mpeg that I will be able to burn to CD-R and watch in natural 16:9 on my widescreen tv.

Can anybody please help me?? This seems like a major enigma; I would prefer to upconvert the resolution to 720x480...but I have no idea what I'm talking about. I basically want to take advantage of the nice resolution of this file and watch it in a natural 16:9 aspect ratio on my widescreen tv using only freeware.
Can it be done?
Thanx a lot!

You said CDR, so I guess its not a DVD your making in order to make it look right, you need to tell TMPGEnc to use full screen > keep aspect ratio. This will put black borders at the top and bottom, but you can zoom them out on a widescreen TV. Load a VCD/SVCD template, then have a go

You can also go to setting > advanced > cut and experiment with different screen sizes and the crop functions

[Obsidian Ghost]

Well actually, I can't even load the AVI file. Whenever I load it, it tells me that it's incompatible...

I'm assuming this has to do with it's unique resolution of 480x272...
Could this make incompatible with TMPGEnc??

Like I said, though, I don't want to crop anything, and I don't want black bars added....
If I used the DVD template, would I still be able to burn it onto a single CD-R provided that the file size is small enough (750mb), or will it automatically create a file that is over 1 gig??

[mh2360]

Use Vdub to frame serve to Tmpgenc. Use the resize filter in Vdub, you might have to experiment.

[KingJohn]

Well actually, I can't even load the AVI file. Whenever I load it, it tells me that it's incompatible...

I'm assuming this has to do with it's unique resolution of 480x272...
Could this make incompatible with TMPGEnc??

Like I said, though, I don't want to crop anything, and I don't want black bars added....
If I used the DVD template, would I still be able to burn it onto a single CD-R provided that the file size is small enough (750mb), or will it automatically create a file that is over 1 gig??

You sure that’s an AVI its beginning to sound like a Mpeg 2, not AVI. All AVI's will load into Vdub, and all will load into TMPGEnc, provided you have the codec's

Right click on file and select properties, if there is only 1 TAB then it’s a mpeg, Ill give you the mpeg details, perhaps along the line you might discover something.

You need to be aware that not all codec's with work into TMPGEnc. Depending on what version you have, they stopped support.

If you have an old copy... TMPGEnc, 2.55 (Free) should be OK, then the Nimo codec pack provides a Mpeg 2 codec that will work.

But if your using the new 2.57 Plus, then there is only 3 codec's it supports. The most popular one, is provided with Power DVD 4. If you install that then TMPGEnc Plus will start working again.

Vdub wont load Mpeg 2 files at all !!

As for the black bar's !!, you have no choice, you need them to preserve the aspect ratio, you can't make a widescreen VCD/SVCD/CDR...

[mh2360]

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As for the black bar's !!, you have no choice, you need them to preserve the aspect ratio, you can't make a widescreen VCD/SVCD/CDR...


Not true, its possible to stretch the picture vertically for a 16:9 screen. With a resolution of 480x272, its certian to be an Divx AVI... Tmpgenc is probably having trouble recognising the audio, so you could try stripping the audio with virtualdub and processing separatly.

[KingJohn]

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As for the black bar's !!, you have no choice, you need them to preserve the aspect ratio, you can't make a widescreen VCD/SVCD/CDR...


Not true, its possible to stretch the picture vertically for a 16:9 screen..

And you call that a widescreen movie "Stretched" In fact its not even a VCD or SVCD, chances are it wont even play

[mh2360]

Obviously you dont what "anamorphic" means...

[KingJohn]

Obviously you dont what "anamorphic" means...

in your book then "anemographic" is a stretched widescreen with a size of 480x272

Don't give up the day job

[Obsidian Ghost]

Look, it's a 480x272 AVI file; like I said, I've made NUMEROUS VCDs using AVI files and TMPGEnc, and I know for a fact that I have all the proper codecs.

Actually, stretching the image to fit onto a widescreen WITHOUT the use of black bars would be excellent.

What I'd really like to do is either SQUISH the 480x272 file into a 4:3 compatible resolution so that I can then stretch it out to a proper aspect ratio using my tv, OR even better, I'd like to make the 480x272 file into a resolution that makes it widescreen to begin with without losing any resolution.

And again, I'd like to say that the file will not load in TMPGEnc; it says "cannot open or unsupported" when I browse for the video source. Yes, I've made VCDs using AVIs with TMPGEnc all the time, and if I didn't have the right codec I wouldn't be able to view the file on my pc would I??

I always process the video and audio seperately using VDub, but like I said, TMPGEnc won't even let me open the video source; I STRONGLY feel this is because of the resolution.
I'll try to resize it using VDub; is there any other way I can alter the res of this file before putting it through TMPGEnc?

Thanx for all your help, guys; I really appreciate it.

[Obsidian Ghost]

Okay, here's something:

I just noticed for the first time that the video doesn't show in VDub for this particular file........which is STRANGE because the video shows just fine in Win Media Player........
Other AVI's show video just fine in VDub....and the audio for this file DOES play in VDub, just not the video............

[Obsidian Ghost]

BTW:

The fps for this file is 20, not the usual 29.97!!

So...what can I do??

[vhelp]

odsidian ghost,

I'd like to try and help (though I dislke divX)
Can you (using vdub) cut a small scene, say a 1MB in size, and upload
it somewhere's so I can D/L it and play w/ it. I'm not concirned with
the quality. REason being, is I've ben playing w/ 16:9 rations, and I
have gotten to a point where my videos look pretty damn good for my
13" TV.

I can't explain it to you here, but if you cut a section via VDUB,
and save it, ten compress it w/ WinRar, to say a 1MB, give or take a
little, I'll be MOST HAPPY to try and help ya out!!!

Worth a shot.
See you in a bit.

-vhelp
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[Obsidian01]

To get Tmpenc to use the Avi file you will need to change the settings so that it will take the avi file. Options then Enviroment settings then go to vpfi plug in the change the Avi2 priorty to 4. Now you should be able to load the avi file.

[Obsidian Ghost]

To get Tmpenc to use the Avi file you will need to change the settings so that it will take the avi file. Options then Enviroment settings then go to vpfi plug in the change the Avi2 priorty to 4. Now you should be able to load the avi file.

Sorry Obsidian, that didn't work.
Like I said, I can load other AVI files, just not this one.

I'll upload that clip later today, Vhelp. Thanx for the offer.