Your chance to prove your CCE vs Tmpgenc opinion!

[LlamaStick]

I've read reams on CCE vs Tmpgenc, and everyone has an
opinion.

I'm currently converting DV home video to DVD.
This site has helped me get to a point where I can :
Capture > Premier 6.0 > Avisynth > Tmpegenc > SpruceUp
> Nero > DVD.
I use the settings for Tmpgenc found on a link from here on 'high
quality DVD from Tmpgenc' and it looked pretty good.
1hour took 24 hours to code 2 pass VBR, and 12 hours on CQ=80.
(1Ghz 512Mb AMD)

I don't want to debate one vs the other, I just want you to list your
settings for Tmpg and especially CCE which will give me 60-90 minutes
on my DVD, at the best quality, with fastest encoding. (Quality over
encoding time, within reason please!). Feel free to indicate ranges on settings.

I will try them all!

This is the last piece in a jigsaw that has taken 6 months to assemble!!

Regards,

Steve.

[BJ_M]

if your criteria is to fit 60-70 minutes on a dvd and you want best quality :

just encode it w/ CBR @ ~8400 -9000 , that will beat any VBR or CQ setting ... and it is the fastest also.

[LlamaStick]

Thanks! That sounds like a good easy start! Anyone else? CCE perhaps?

[Mxjshaf69]

In CCE use multipass 3 passes with average bitrate around 5500 to 6000 min bitrate 1000 max 9000
In TMPGenc use CBR 5500 to 6000 with motion search precision on normal or high quality

[BJ_M]

In CCE use multipass 3 passes with average bitrate around 5500 to 6000 min bitrate 1000 max 9000
In TMPGenc use CBR 5500 to 6000 with motion search precision on normal or high quality

the higher the bit rate - the higher the quality ... and a high bit rate CBR is better than a avg VBR (if it is a high bit rate at or near the max of the format) .. that is why I encode High Def for cinema (if mpeg2 - there is also wavlet compression for High Def) at CBR 50m/sec - 100m/sec

the same applies if using CCE or TMPGEnc ..,

if you have the space on your disk - always max out the bit rate - go for the best colour and and a smaller GOP and more I frames and less or no B frames (ALL I frames though doesnt equal the best quality on DVD though -- there is a reason for this thats a lenthy explanation)

[SLK001]

High bitrate CBR will be the quickest and also the highest quality. Also use the highest resolution (720x480). Just remember that this method will chew up about 4Gbytes an hour, so you will only be able to get about 70 minutes on a DVD with your audio and menu stuff.

Shorter GOPs will result in better quality, but this is something that you won't be able to see. Be careful with experimenting with GOP structures. GOP's are NOT optional on a DVD and I'm not sure what constitutes the minimum GOP structure (below which, you would be "non-complient). At your BR's, a standard 3-4 GOP should result in outstanding quality. CCE is faster... TMPG is more affordable.