Prob with writing 2x on Pioneer DVR 104

[venux]

I've got a prob with my new Pioneer DVR 104. 1x burned DVD-R (and DVD-RW) are just fine, but 2x speed burned DVD-R are crap.
It burns them without error but only 90% of the data can be played back. The end of the track (2mm) looks very strange, as if the burner changed intensity or something.
It makes no difference if I burn Data (UDF/ISO) or Video. Result is the same, can't read the complete DVD-R.
Tried Nero 5.5.8.2 and InstantDVD/CD 6.4 on Windows2000.
Any idea?

[leebo]

"Any idea?"

Yeah. Read the posts about DVD recordable media. This topic has been done to death.

Basically, try different media. People have even had probs with Apple and Pioneer media.

[venux]

I have tried Pioneer Media and Verbatim, no difference.
I can write 2x on both, that's not the prob. But after writing only 90% of the data is readable.
Looks like other people have the same problem with the Pio 104 (read the forum ), this is not looking like a Media problem. More like a hardware prob of the Pio (maybe temp as it was pretty warm here the last days)

[Faustus]

People have even had probs with Apple and Pioneer media.

No problem with apple of Pioneer media except for one single time with a PS2 and apple disk. Otherwise perfect sailing for me.

venux: Check out my media guides also for media talk... ready for bed now so I wont link it but it should be in this very forum... have fun.

[brunolly]

This sounds very familiar to the frustrations I've been having with my Pioneer 104. I started out with a batch of generic (Princo I think) and they all seem to burn fine, but of course play like crap on both my dvd players (an ACI Flex and a JVC XV D723). I moved onto one Imation, and that had the "90%" problem...more like 99% actually, but there was a noticeable glitch on the disc towards the end. Same with all my Memorex and now Verbatim. The Verbatim was burned at 2x and the glitch looks absolutely horrible, taking up a similar 10% of the end of the disc. Interestingly, my ACI will play this part just fine, but my JVC totally barfs on it...however there's a few parts of the disc that play glitchy on the ACI and not on the JVC towards the middle. I'm just about to throw out the whole damn thing.

[atomicgeezer]

I believe this to be a software problem..

I had the same problem using traxdata on one movie..
I think if the movie is around the 4,3gb limit then some
DVD player struggle to read it yet some other players
read it fine.. I try using the white label and verb from a
local supplier and these were ok.. Hope this is helpful to
anyone.

regards

Atomicgeezer

[PhilipL]

Withdrawn

[saitoh]

The 4gb bit for mpegs should have been just for Windows machines (since avi or mpeg files larger then 4gb have problems under 2k/xp and 2gb under 9x), if the limit was related to this, then it would be solvable with using multipul files/chapters or whatever.

Anyone care to test?

[mikerios]

most of my encodes are over 4 gb right up to the limit ( 4.3Gb ), and playback is not an issue, it's usually the media that fubars, hence i have a dedicated cooling on my a03, it rides the 1394 bus and uses only apple media for all my critical media burns.

[thetrooper2k1]

I also seem to have this problem now, it was working fine at both 1x and 2x speed..now i when i burn discs round about the 4.3gb mark the discs are unreadable at about 95%, i have used bulkpaq and tdk dvd-rs and it is no different but when i burn to pirinco dvd-rw it is fine with no errors at all..if i use to around 4.0gb mark they are fine. When i compare failed discs against discs i have done before i now get this space around the edge of failed discs..

[musher70]

the media certainly isnt the problem.....i bought a 25 pack of
those dollar discs and not one failed yet........I vobs right up
to 4.4gigs or so........and never had problems even reading credits
or anything........i dont try messing around with a single mpg that
4gigs though soory if im confusing u.........

[Delboy999]

I also have a problem with the pioneer 104, similar to that below, i have not seen it burn at 2x so far and when it does burn i can play it in the DVD writer it was created on but my external dvd player doesnt reconise the disc, i tried a DVD RW and the externalplayer reconised this one but froze whilst playing it, I too have Nero 5.5 and Instant CD/DVD but have failed to record a succesfull dvd, any one has info i would love to hear from them